Re: Another disarmed citizen relies on the Police for protection



"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:5rREj.255$Cn4.16@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
"Jones" <Jones@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:47e3d6cc$0$26094$88260bb3@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx


"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in
message news:WMPEj.235$NU2.105@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
"Jones" <Jones@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:47e3b867$0$26081$88260bb3@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx


"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in
message news:CROEj.245$Cn4.201@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
"Jones" <Jones@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:47e3a9d8$0$4167$88260bb3@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx


"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in
message news:_aOEj.242$Cn4.56@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
"Jones" <Jones@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:47e39e24$0$26081$88260bb3@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Only the Police should have guns, they will
protect you.
Keep chanting that, maybe someone will believe it.



Protect me from what? I am smart enough to seek out
and live in a low crime area in the first place.

That's silly. Crime knows no boundaries. You just
haven't noticed yet. You will.

This happened in a gorgeous neighborhood:

"4/21/2006 Home Invader Nabbed By Webster Police
(Webster, NY) -- A 21-year-old Webster man is in the
Monroe County Jail charged with burglary and
resisting arrest after breaking into two homes overnite.
Webster Police say the homeowner of a Brooktree Lane
residence heard intruder the inside his home around 2:00 this
morning then confronted him. The man and his wife
fled their own home. When Webster police arrived, Timothy
Hicks was coming out the front door. Hicks was
finally taken into custody with assistance from several
officers. Investigators report Hicks also broke into
another Webster home on Appian Drive prior to the
Brooktree Lane home invasion. According to police,
those homeowners spotted Hicks but did not confront
him. During his arraignment in Webster Town Court,
early this morning, Hicks was ordered to undergo a
mental health evaluation."
Another gorgeous neighborhood:

"4/10/2006
Third Arrest Made In Wayne County Home Invasion
Robbery (Gananda, NY) -- Authorities report a third
arrest in a Wayne County home invasion robbery in
January. Officers arrested Kenyada Peterkin in
Rochester on Friday. Peterkin and the two other
defendants are suspected members of an Asian gang.
Investigators say the three men currently in custody
are the only ones suspected in the robbery of the
home on Sunrise Drive." Your logic is flawed. Your
neighborhood does not have
a magical bubble protecting it.

I am not the one that collects clips of crimes
wondering when I will be the next victim.

I don't keep clips. I easily searched for those via a
local online news source.

Just 5 minutes from my home, there was another
incident two years back in which two guys broke into
a lovely home, tied up the husband and wife, stuffed
them in the trunk of their car, and then robbed the
house. Criminals like that are explicitly asking you
to kill them. It would cost under five dollars to
honor their request, assuming you used fancy
ammunition. You have to be really selfish to refuse
to honor their request.
You sound like a terrified paranoid individual.

No, not at all. If a neighbor stops by and says "Help!
I'm out of eggs.", I'm happy to give them some eggs.
If a criminal stops by and says "Help! My parents
never taught me good judgement.", I'm happy to teach
them, using whatever means is appropriate at the
moment. Why are you so selfish?

Normal people don't go around with loaded guns.

Go tell a cop "You're not normal." Let me know what
he/she says. Do it today. And by the way, at least one
of your friends walks around with a loaded gun. You're
not aware of it, but they do.

Wahahaha....Wait.I thought you say not to reply on
cops. You can handle it yourself. This response is
assanine. Cops get paid to put thier lives on the line
for others. Nothing is in it for you buyt some sick
joy thinking you are somehw normal.


You think everyone should be as loony as you. This is
what you are so angry about.

I'm not angry. Now, tell me: If you find an intruder
in your home at 3:00 AM, how do you know that person
is not going to harm you?

Shoot first and let GOD sort it out, right? I have
early warning systems in place and would never wake to
find a criminal anywhere on my land. What would YOU
do? Would you ask "Who is there? I have a gun!!" Tell
us how you would react.
I found myself inside the home of by accident and could
have been shot if you had anything to say a about it.
Have you ever visited someone in a large home in a
neighborhood where all the houses look alike and are so
close together that one can not even find a place to
park? Some of these homes have been converted to
apartments where you enter the front door and walk up
to a door and knock. It is easy to confuse one from the
other if your friends car is parked two houses down and
both buildings are white. You walk in the door like the
last time and climb a flight of stairs to find you are
knocking at someone's bedroom door. Should you expect
the last thing you hear to be a cocked gun because you
have entered the home of a gun kooker? Do you have
links to this type of occurrence or do you think it
never happens and don't really give a shit? 30% of gun
owners that are killed are shot with their own weapon.
Ask drunken Dick Cheney if he still goes off cocked
with a half cocked weapon.
Do you sleep with a loaded gun under your pillow? Do
you ever expect to awaken by the sound of broken
glass? I bet you dream of that day don't you?


I assume your early warning system is a dog. That's not
an option for me.

Why should you assume anything? I live within hearing
distance of a school and many students use the
surrounding area for various reasons including short
cuts and escape routes. Hangouts and pit stops are
visible from my top floor and sometimes an odor is
detectable. As harmless as I am sure it is I still have
security devices with battery backup to warn me when
someone is on my land. Cameras record any motion night
or day along with recorded sounds. Some cameras are
visible to act as a deterrent. There is no chance that
all devices will fail simultaneously what-so-ever. If a
dog takes a piss on a bush I can tell you who it belongs
to. The worst thing that has happened has been some
tomato thieves and I sent the father a bill along with
the snap shots of the kids in my garden.


You have your land set up like a prison yard, and you
call ME paranoid & angry? That's funny.



About not locking your doors at night: It only takes a
second to lock your doors. If you don't do it, it's
because you're trying to prove a point. Tell me a good
reason to leave them Unlocked. A practical reason.

Many times I walk into the yard to speak to a neighbor
and wander off for a cup of coffee. This happens all the
time in my area. Not many people barricade their home
while watering their lawn. Doors and windows are left
open to let in air. Sometimes I walk into Joe's kitchen
and grab a beer and yell "Hey Joe, What's up". Things
have not changed in many neighborhoods in my area in
decades. There are nice teens everywhere and we all get
along fine. Sort of like a neighborhood watch if one was
needed. Just like the olden days. You knock on the front
door of a friend and he yells "come on in the door's
open". I love it here in the burbs.


How about at night when you go to sleep? Do you lock your
house doors? What about your car doors?

I lock my house and park my cars in the garage. I know people that have
teens that come and go all hours of the night and never lock up.



About the rest: Maybe you're right. Convince me. Let's
use a hypothetical situation. Your early warning system
fails, and you (meaning SPECIFICALLY YOU) find an
intruder in your home. What would you do?

You tell me when THAT would happen. More likely that
your gun would misfire or your invader would have snuck
in while your were asleep, if you ever do.

You didn't answer my question. What would you do in the
situation I described? You *DO* have an answer, but you
are afraid to reveal it here. We cannot continue until
you answer the question.

I am waiting for you to tell me just how my system would fail. When has any
professional surveillance system ever failed? Do you think some bad guy can
just cut some wires? Will all my batteries die at once? Will all the alarms
and cameras somehow stop working? I can log on from work and see what is
going on if I am not at home. Will your guns protect you in that manner? I
listen to the scanner and near 911 calls from old people needing a ride to
the hospital all the time. There is one just down the street. I have never
heard of one taking very to long to respond. Hell, there is a donut shop
right down the street too. Maybe that is why it is so safe here. Cops are
here all the time to settle teen problems. We all know the kids and the cops
by their first names. To bad you guys have to complain about cops all the
time. That must suck. I would definitely move if I lived where you do.



--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

.

Relevant Pages