Re: A serious discussion about the need for more gun control



Jim Bianchi <jimbo@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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"pbamvv@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <pbamvv@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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I do not attribute criminal violence with gun ownership.
I do believe there is some correlation between gun-ownership and
being shot.

Huh? If you look at what you're saying, these two sentences are
mutually contradictory. The second sentence is totally incorrect.
There is (and has never been) any correlation between firearm
ownership and 'being shot' (except that, before firearms existed,
there was no danger of being shot -- stabbed, choked, beheaded,
beaten, yes -- shot no). I'll take your use of 'being shot' as meaning
'becoming a victim of violent crime,' and point out that both the
number of firearms existing as well as the estimated annual sales
figures do not track in any way with the amount of violent crime (or
the possibility of 'being shot').

that's just your imagination;you have no factual evidence for that
belief.

..ah, no. It is found in the FBI UCR figures (or can easily be
derived from them).

Per the NCVS, 97% of the criminal victimizations did not involve a
firearm....only 3% did. In that same NCVS, only 29% of the *violent*
criminal victimizations involved a firearm, 71% did not.

-90% of all violent crimes in the U.S. do not involve firearms of any
type. (Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, 1998)

-Less than 1% of all firearms will ever be used in the commission of a
crime. (FBI Uniform Crime Statistics, 1994)

What was that you were saying about "that's all your
imagination?"


Jim B,that was MY words to the Dutch guy.
HE is the one imagining correlation of gun ownership to being shot.
But thanks for the factual support.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net
.



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