Re: My prediction for the current Supreme Court RKBA case

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I see nothing that trumps a right -- I'm finding it difficult to
understand the principle of these so-called 'non-absolute rights'...

The right to free speech does not include (therefore not absolute)
would include:

Yelling I have a bomb on an aircraft
Fire, in a crowded mall
Your Honor, your an idiot...
You can do all those things; there's no mechanism in place to prevent
you from doing any of them.

You might find yourself subject to unpleasant repercussions, but only
after the fact.

You get the point....
You actually have to ->do something before you can be punished.

Further I note that in all of the above, you can only be punished if the statement you make is false.

Slander or causing unjustified fear isn't protected. Never has been.

Slander isn't an aspect of free speech.

Do you have the right to publish a slanderous speech ?
(A: YES)

A: NO

Show me the law that states you cannot

Not interested in the law, we are discussing rights.


You are claiming that there is some kind of restriction of expressing slander or libel
That is ONLY possible if there is a law or legal decision declaring it illegal BEFORE it is committed
Since there is NO SUCH LAW or legal decision, the right to do so is absolute
And no matter how you try to split hairs about it, will NOT change that fact

I never said anything about restriction.

I'm talking about rights, pure and simple.

Does the government have the right to prevent you from publishing it ?
(A: NO)

A: NO -- governments don't have rights.

Hair-splitting noted

Not hair splitting at all.

It is a thoroughly correct answer -- governments don't have rights.


It is hair-splitting
Change the word to "authority"or "power" to satisfy your need to bugger the fly.

Rights, authority, and power are hardly the same word.

Let's follow your lead, and change "hair-splitting" to "being accurate" and move on -- thanks!
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