Re: My prediction for the current Supreme Court RKBA case


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RD (The Sandman) wrote:
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RD (The Sandman) wrote:
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RD (The Sandman) wrote:
Every other right already is. Name one which is absolute.
What does "absolute" mean in this context?
Nothing trumps it.
Ok.

Give me an example.

Free speech and slander

The right to speech extends up to the point that it substantially affects another's rights. Therefore, slander is not an aspect of free speech.


You have the right to slander and under free speech the government can't stop you from committing slander
That is why slander is resolved in CIVIL and NOT criminal court


Privacy in one's home and warrants

A person immediately forfeits their right to privacy when they infringe upon the rights of another (e.g. commit a crime). A warrant is merely due process for someone that has (allegedly) already forfeited their claim to privacy.

RKBA and private property rights.

This is a good point, but one that I have yet to sort out. What right(s) are subject to (voluntary) suspension?

Your fist....my nose.

The right to my fist extends up to the point that it substantially affects another's rights (e.g. your nose). Therefore, this is not an aspect of liberty.


I see nothing that trumps a right -- I'm finding it difficult to understand the principle of these so-called 'non-absolute rights'...

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  • Re: My prediction for the current Supreme Court RKBA case
    ... slander is not an aspect of free speech. ... A person immediately forfeits their right to privacy when they infringe upon the rights of another. ... I see nothing that trumps a right -- I'm finding it difficult to understand the principle of these so-called 'non-absolute rights'... ...
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  • Re: My prediction for the current Supreme Court RKBA case
    ... slander is not an aspect of free speech. ... Then the right of free speech is NOT absolute. ... There is NO government EDICT that can prevent you from expressing either slander or libel ...
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  • Re: My prediction for the current Supreme Court RKBA case
    ... Slander or causing unjustified fear isn't protected. ... Slander isn't an aspect of free speech. ... That is ONLY possible if there is a law or legal decision declaring it illegal BEFORE it is committed ... Since there is NO SUCH LAW or legal decision, the right to do so is absolute ...
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    ... The right to speech extends up to the point that it substantially affects another's rights. ... slander is not an aspect of free speech. ... It's YOUR DECISION NOT TO commit murder that prevents you from committing murder ...
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  • Re: My prediction for the current Supreme Court RKBA case
    ... The right to speech extends up to the point that it substantially affects another's rights. ... slander is not an aspect of free speech. ... Under free speech the government CANNOT stop you from speaking slander ...
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