Re: Rumsfeld Charged with Torture



On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:07:49 +0800, "Tom Potter" <tdp1001@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:


<ozarkheart@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 23:22:14 +0800, "Tom Potter" <tdp1001@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

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as I mentioned, I look to the Internet for "enlightenment",
and I suggest that the best way to be "enlightened"
is by engaging in rational, intelligent, MORAL debates
on serious issues, and NOT by
"Holding the messenger's feet to the fire."

Indeed. Then let us have a rational discussion about your comment that
I "have been so intently conditioned by race, religion
and politics that they are incapable of addressing messages
in a rational, intelligent, MORAL way".

Please tell me how my "race" has made me incapable of addressing
things in a rational, intelligent, MORAL way.

Besure to include how you even know what my"race" is.

First off, lets get the quote right.
I posted:

"It is sad to see that many people,
like <ozarkheart@xxxxxxxxx>,
have been so intently conditioned by race, religion
and politics that they are incapable of addressing messages
in a rational, intelligent, MORAL way.."


Yep: And I took the quote and posed a question.



A review of this thread will clearly show that
although I have tried to force a debate on facts and issues,

Well, the one obvious fact I see is that you seem to be a racist.


that you and a couple of your buddies,
have made short, negative, one line comments
aimed at the messenger,
rather than the message.


So you say. However, I asked a couple of very straightforward
questions.



For example the thrust of your response to
my posting of fact and opinion was
was not to post fact that disproved my position,
nor to express an alternate opinion,
but your response was:
"Sadly, it does not end your stupidity."

Sorry, you stupidity was so obvious.....



Until I see an example of where you make an effort
to address an issue in a rational, intelligent, MORAL way,
I have to assume that you are either stupid or brainwashed.

Assume makes you an "ASSume".

An assumption is not a "fact"; thus negating you rclaim that "I have
tried to force a debate on facts and issues".



Now I assume that you are not stupid,
so I assume that you have been brainwashed
by "race, religion, <or> politics".

Again, your assumtion is simply yopur bigoted opinion and is not based
on facts.



Now considering that your shots seemed to be aimed
at "liberals" which I definitely am not,

my apologies: I should clearly define the term "libral" as commonly
used today is what I describe as a "political liberal".

I am a true liberal. "Political liberals" are today dangerous enemies
of freedom.


it appears to me that your brainwashing was done by
bigoted conservative elements either political or religious.

Hmmm. So how did YOU avoid this "brainwashing"?


If this is not the case,
pray tell me what other factor could compel
a non-stupid person to direct ALL of his shots at the
messenger, rather than at the message?


So you have mumbled a lot but failed to answer the questions:

Please tell me how my "race" has made me incapable of addressing
things in a rational, intelligent, MORAL way.

Besure to include how you even know what my"race" is.
.



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