Re: Top Ten Gun Industry Lies About Microstamping

On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 12:09:19 -0500, The Lone Weasel
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On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 18:47:58 -0500, The Lone Weasel
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On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 17:09:05 -0500, The Lone Weasel
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br549@xxxxxxxxx said:


In order to help the gunborg who hate microstamping
because it will help catch gun criminals, I cheerfully
repost the subject of this thread.

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TOP 10 GUN INDUSTRY LIES ABOUT MICROSTAMPING

Despite an extensive disinformation campaign by the gun
industry, microstamping came within a single vote of
being sent to the Governor?s desk during the past
legislative session in California. As legislators around
the country consider implementing microstamping in their
own states, we would like to set the record straight on
the technology.

LIE #1: There is ?no support? from California law
enforcement for microstamping technology.

TRUTH: Microstamping is supported by more than 55 police
chiefs, sheriffs and prosecuting attorneys across
California. Los Angeles Police Chief William Bratton has
stated, ?I strongly believe microstamping is a valuable
tool that will enhance law enforcement's ability to
gather intelligence and put bad guys behind bars."
Microstamping technology is also supported by California
State Attorney General Bill Lockyer.


LIE #2: The technology can be easily defeated ?in
seconds? by criminals using ?common household tools.?

TRUTH: Handguns equipped with microstamping technology
create a redundant system for transferring the make,
model and serial number of a handgun to a cartridge. The
system makes multiple marks and is designed with
?anti-counter measures? to prevent tampering. Most
criminals would not even know how to find the
technology?it is not visible to the naked eye?never mind
defeat it. The firing pin on a handgun equipped with
microstamping technology is nearly as hard as a diamond
and impervious to common household tools. And if the
firing pin were replaced, the redundant markings would
transfer the information to the cartridge.


LIE#3: Criminals will gather used microstamped cartridges
at government facilities and private shooting ranges and
?seed? crime scenes with this false evidence to implicate
others and cover their trail.

TRUTH: There is nothing to stop criminals from taking
such measures now to fool the existing ballistics
identification system in the state (the National
Integrated Ballistics Information Network), but they
rarely do, according to law enforcement officials.
Experience shows that most criminals fail to take even
modest precautions, like removing license plates from a
stolen car or wearing gloves during burglaries.


LIE#4: Microstamping would lead to significant price
increases for firearms consumers, as much as $150 per
firearm.

TRUTH: Todd Lizotte, the developer of microstamping
technology, has testified that outfitting new
semiautomatic handguns with the technology will cost gun
manufacturers only between 50 cents and one dollar per
firearm. The process is analogous to the current laser
processes used to create micro serial numbers on handguns
sold in Massachusetts.


LIE#5: Microstamped cartridges could not be recycled
because they might implicate secondary users of reloaded
cartridges. This would require an expensive and
alternative disposal process.

TRUTH: Trained forensic examiners can easily identify
recycled cartridges and are called on to do so now as
part of their standard operating procedure when
investigating gun crimes. Microstamping technology will
not change this process, and examiners will clearly
understand that evidence from a recycled cartridge could
come from two separate firearms. Standard firearms
examination provides for this type of determination using
a series of characteristics, which include orientation of
markings, the use of reload primers, mismatched
bullet/projectiles and powder residue. No special
requirements are necessary.


LIE #6: Implementation of the technology would result in
a ban on all ammunition in California.

TRUTH: Microstamping imposes no requirements on
manufacturers of ammunition. The legislation would impose
manufacturing requirements only on the makers of newly
designed semiautomatic handguns sold in the state after
January 1, 2009.


LIE #7: Microstamping is a sole-source technology that
would create a government-sanctioned monopoly for a
single company.

TRUTH: The patent holder of microstamping technology has
announced that a royalty-free license will be provided to
every firearms manufacturer on guns sold in California.


LIE #8: Microstamping would be ineffective because only a
small percentage of gun crime is committed by criminals
using handguns they purchased legally.

TRUTH: The percentage of gun crime committed by legal
versus illegal handgun owners is not relevant to the
effectiveness of microstamping. Microstamping will help
law enforcement solve crimes committed with new
semiautomatic handguns by providing substantial
investigatory links that can aid in identifying the
handgun and the perpetrator in handgun crimes. Currently,
no arrest is made in approximately 45 percent of all
homicides in California because police lack the evidence
they need to identify suspects, and of the approximately
2,400 homicides in California, over 60 percent are
committed with handguns (2004 California Department of
Justice data).


LIE #9: Microstamped markings would be altered by residue
produced by the normal firing of a gun, or by owners
cleaning and caring for their weapons.

TRUTH: Microstamping technology is designed to withstand
even deliberate tampering. The structures created by the
microstamping process are nearly as hard as a diamond.
Normal wear and tear and routine maintenance on a firearm
will have absolutely no effect on the technology?s
ability to mark cartridges.


LIE #10: The technology has not been studied or tested
?in the real world.?

TRUTH: Independent examiners have fired thousands of
rounds with microstamp-enabled guns and the firearms have
continued to produce a consistent and observable mark. In
a May 2006 test at the California Highway Patrol range,
California Assemblyman Paul Koretz was unable to damage
the structures on the firing pin of a microstamped gun
using several types of household files. The results were
verified by a firearms expert at the California
Criminalistics Institute.


Produced by the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence,
www.csgv.org, and the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun
Violence, www.bradycampaign.org.

[end excerpt]

Bullshit. They game demonstrations to mislead the
ignorant -- like you.

I repeat my above statement, oh ignorant one. This is
just another taxpayer funded boondoggle that is doomed to
failure.

Then why are you shouting in that high-pitched squeal, Mr.
Anonymous Screeching Gunborg?

Just let those of us who support microstamping prove your
infallible position by putting it into action, seeing how
it actually works for 30-50 years.

Then if it doesn't work, you win. But if it does work, you
win only because crime will be so reduced, nobody will
would bother stealing your guns.

Win win you losing loser.

If YOU wish to waste money on this boondoggle, YOU FUND IT
OUT OF YOUR OWN POCKET.

The California legislature passed it, so it's the law like it
or not.


The insanity within that particular left wing sewer has no effect on
me. I had the misfortune of being stationed there a couple of decades
ago, saw the handwriting on the wall, and made certain that I retired
someplace else.

Just stop asking me to pay for
something that I know won't work, halfwit.

You cheerfully paid for the trillion dollar boondoggle Iraq
War so what are you bitching about now, knucklehead?

More BS from a whining left wing cur, trying desperately to justify
that yellow stripe down his back.
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