Re: Spare Parts Cache
- From: Doug T <dtreybo@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 16:58:56 +0000 (UTC)
oldpink wrote:
# browninghighpower9@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
# # I never cease to be amazed at the naivete of the "survivalist
# # mentality" People do not realize that when and if a total ban on
# # anything takes place the penalties for hording such contraband will
# # totally ruin you financially as well as imprison you.
# [...]
#
#
# Here is where you are wrong.
# Ex post facto laws are unconstitutional.
# The upshot of that is that the feds are explicitly forbidden to
# confiscate anything you have obtained before a ban is foisted upon us.
I don't think your entirely correct there. While it is more or less
prohibited to make it a crime that what you did yesterday legally you
can now be punished for today that only makes it harder to do. I believe
one example would be Domestic violence. Few years back you could beat
your wife and own guns now...
Date of Previous Conviction: The prohibition applies to persons
convicted of such misdemeanors at any time, even if the conviction
occurred prior to the new law's effective date, September 30, 1996. See
United States v. Brady, 26 F.3d 282 (2d Cir.), cert. denied, 115 S.Ct.
246 (1994)(denying ex post facto challenge to a 922(g)(1) conviction)
and United States v. Waters, 23 F.3d 29 (2d Cir. 1994)(ex post facto
based challenge to a 922(g)(4) conviction).
It would be very hard to make you a criminal today for owning guns
yesterday but the Ex post facto laws would not even slow down a ban that
mandated turn in or destruction of firearms owned today. There are
prohibitions on taking of assets without compensation that might slow
down a ban a little but not for long. Ask a Californian that was a
victim of this game; your gun is not on the assault ban list so it
doesn't need to be registered, oops we made a mistake we changed our
minds today and put that gun on the list and it must be registered or
surrendered and registration closed yesterday, scam.
Now whether or not the government that could only tell if a rifle was an
assault weapon by the presence of more than two of the list, could
successfully describe what spare parts for this or that item, or if they
would even try is much in doubt.
Doug T
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