Re: NRA supporting NICS improvement act

Bert Hyman wrote:
In news:pHfLi.17692$ya1.1924@xxxxxxxxxxxxx "Gerald \"Brick\" Brickwood"
<brick45@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

"Bert Hyman" <bert@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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The NRA is currently supporting HR 2640 known as the NICS
Improvement Amendments Act of 2007. The bill will add millions of
names to the generally useless NICS database of prohibited persons.
The names that would be added are of folks who are already prohibited
persons.

Brick: Agree

Many of them prohibited with no real due process under the law.
There's an explicit provision in the bill for relief of disability
for those whose restrictions are due to mental illness.

Brick: This is were I disagree. Instead of providing a system for
"relief of disability", which to me is the same as saying the accused
must prove he's innocent, the Federal law should provide guidelines
for due process to determine "mental incompetence" so the "accused"
has full legal and medical counsel when he needs it most, right from
the start.

Presumably, the method for determining disability due to mental
impairment has already been determined to meet any requirement for due
process.

If not, that's where the attack belongs.

Bert, the NICS itself is a horror. It is the federal government giving its permission to a citizen in order to buy a firearm.

As a government permission, it directly contravenes the 2nd Amendment.

The NICs may even do some good, but: Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves. -- William Pitt

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Cheers,
Bama Brian
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