Re: The Second Amendment Was Never Ratified And Therefore Not Constitutional




Peter Franks wrote:
The Lone Weasel wrote:
kp wrote:


Ammendment IX, however, does still apply:
"The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be
construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."

So, even if RKBA isn't enumerated, it existed before 1776 as a natural
right and therefore still exists.


The right of the People to keep and bear arms might go back to the
English Bill of Rights if you accept the fact that the People were none
other than the nobility and landed gentry. Commoners had no such
right, and Catholics had no right to bear arms no matter how wealthy
they were.

They had the right.

The nobles and landed gentry certainly had the right. Not commoners
like you, son.

They were denied the ability to enjoy the right by those tyrants that held the power.

Loyal Englishmen were granted the right to bear arms. Common goobers
were not granted any rights, and none of these rights had anything to
do with natural rights, Goober.

__________________


That the subjects which are Protestants may have arms for their defence
suitable to their conditions and as allowed by law...

English Bill of Rights, 1689


Yours truly,

The Lone Weasel

.



Relevant Pages

  • Re: A Model, American Firearms Policy (Long)
    ... of their right to keep and bear arms and other states that believe ... the lack of a Bill of Rights, and they provided a list of such rights - ... The second amendment could have looked like that. ... They were, in fact, nervous that someone with YOUR views and bias might come along and thing that because inalienable rights are mentioned that government had a right to control those. ...
    (talk.politics.guns)
  • Re: DC v Heller: Amicus Brief of the Real Linguists, Part I
    ... for what terms USED in the Constitution meant. ... Bouvier's the first comprehensive US law dictionary and you're scared ... By YOUR way of making up convenient defintions, BEAR ARMS means the limbs of a large land mammal! ... In its most enlarged sense, it signifies a self-sufficient body of persons united together in one community for the defence of their rights, and to do right and justice to foreigners. ...
    (talk.politics.guns)
  • Re: Does the Militia Preface Qualify the Right to Keep and Bear Arms?
    ... In light of the question presented in The District of Columbia v. Heller now pending in the Supreme Court, I have updated the SSSN version of my article, Was the Right to Keep and Bear Arms Conditioned on Service in an Organized Militia?, so you can now download the final version as it appeared in the Texas Law Review. ... Those who deny that the original meaning of the Second Amendment protected an individual right to keep and bear arms on a par with the rights of freedom of speech, press and assembly no longer claim that the amendment refers only to a collective right of states to maintain their militias. ... It is a right that is owned due to membership in the society. ...
    (talk.politics.guns)
  • Re: A Model, American Firearms Policy (Long)
    ... "..the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be ... the 2nd Amendment means you can own and carry any weapon you ... Using self defense as a means to justify firearms is a weak ... stance when discussing rights. ...
    (talk.politics.guns)
  • Re: A Model, American Firearms Policy (Long)
    ... "..the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be ... the 2nd Amendment means you can own and carry any weapon you ... Using self defense as a means to justify firearms is a weak ... stance when discussing rights. ...
    (talk.politics.guns)