Re: "Gun activists get say at U.N. summit"



wuzyoungoncetoo@xxxxxxxxx wrote:

John Patitucci wrote:

wuzyoungoncetoo@xxxxxxxxx wrote:


Spaz wrote:


Nope. Everyone who wants to live here must first agree with the rules and sign a legal document
that binds them to following those rules. You can't buy a house here without signing the agreement


Bull***...unless you live in some suburb of Peking.

He's correct, this time.
When moving into a "housing development" like he claims, one must
follow and abide by the rules of that community.


Well, no...not quite. You're referring to a homeowner's association,

Exactly!


which can indeed impose restrictions on things like maintaining the
outward appearance of homes, number of permanent residents of the home,
etc. But you need to brush up a bit on the basic concepts of U.S. law.

I am well aware of them, and what you said above.


Any agreement that fundamentally strips someone of his/her
Constitutional rights would be, on its face, fundamentally
unenforceable.

BINGO!
The first and second Amendments are the one that I and SPAZ are talking about!

No guns allowed, according to him!
No capturing of the public airwaves, according to what the many "housing Associations" I have seen first hand!

As someone else already pointed out you could not, for
example, prohibit mionority homeowners, or prohibit non-minority owners
from having minorities as guests in their homes...no matter what kind
of nonsense the association chose to put in the agreement.

I wasn't arguing that, as that is truly stupid and wrong.
However, Minorities are refused to have certain TV entertainment, as dish size limits ARE set, even if they don't pose a threat to the buildings or neighbors, by posting the dish in concrete, in the soil! :)




If I move into Spaz's neighborhood (though I wouldn't...I don't really
like trailer parks) and choose to keep a legal firearm in my bedside
table for personal protection, there isn't ***-all he or the
association can do about it.


I agree!
But, according to him, there is!


Association agreements don't have the
force of law, nor do they supercede local, state or federal law.

Then why did the police have to be called by the white family next door in the middle of my installation of a dish installation, and tell me to stop when doing a Telstar 5 Instal for a rather nice Chinese family?



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