Re: A disturbing sign.

<pohaku.kane@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in a message

>> Although, I suppose, there are some states where you are not allowed to
>> carry a gun in the passenger compartment of a vehicle in a concealed
>> manner.
>> On a pickup with no cap or other means to protect/lock the bed area,
>> you'd
>> have to carry your rifle in the cab. It would seem that in order to do so
>> legally (in areas with "no concealed..." laws), you'd need to put it in a
>> gun rack or mount it in some other, visible, manner.

> Nope. Not required. Simply unloaded. Same with handguns. With CCW, on
> your person. Off your person and without CCW, then unloaded and stored
> away from the occupants. Trunk works. Doubt a cop would be particularly
> worried if you had one in a case behind the seat, unloaded with no ammo
> real handy.

In what state, city or town are you talking about? I recall talking to some
cop somewhere that was telling me that the law (where he was) was that any
gun in the passenger compartment had to be *plainly* visible - even having
it on the floor in the back seat wouldn't cut it.

> Some cops are assholes and will bust you for anything, while the
> majority will not and use good sense.

True. That's why they pass "enabler laws".

> The answer? Get a puckering CCW and keep it on you, and disable your
> long guns and unload.

Not an option here in Mayor Daley's kingdom of Illinois. No CCW allowed. No
open carry allowed. Based on various laws, technically, having a gun in you
car, anywhere, in any state of readiness is not really allowed.
Realistically, if you have an unloaded gun, in a case (preferably locked),
in your trunk, *and* the ammo stored seperately, the cops are fine with
that. A loaded gun, anywhere in your car will generally get you in a bit of
trouble. If it's 3 am and you're driving on the south side with a weapon
anywhere in your car, you're probably going to get in trouble. If you're a
middle aged yuppie type in a nice SUV or a Beemer and you have an unloaded
weapon anywhere in the car - your probably not going to get any trouble. If
it's loaded, and you have it within reach, and you tell the cop you carry
large sums of cash from your business and drive through high crime areas...
you're probably not going to have a problem.

So, to sum up, the law in Illinois is it depends on who you are, where you
are and what it appears you may or may not be doing. :-)

> I do NOT like advertising I am armed. You see, I want the bad guys to
> have to guess about us all. Amazing what "shall issue" did in the
> states that adopted it. Just puckering amazing.

I've been active in the battle here in Illinois to change the fact that we
are one of the few remaining states without any type of concealed carry law.
Hell, Chicago just decided that retired cops can't even carry any more. John
Birch from Concealedcarry.org likes that. He figures that now, we have them
on our side.


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