Re: Gun nuts STILL haven't resolved their contradiction
- From: "SaPeIsMa" <SaPeIsMa@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 14:42:56 -0500
"Scout" <4guns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> "SaPeIsMa" <SaPeIsMa@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> "Scout" <4guns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>>>> Why? What have you said to illicit such a response?
>>>> The most intelligent response to your ascertain that law abiding
>>>> citizens
>>>> should break laws simply because they are easily broken, would have
>>>> been to
>>>> ignore it completely. I am somewhat dismayed that some people chose to
>>>> respond, thereby allowing you mistakenly believe your original point
>>>> merited
>>>> any amount of thought or response. >>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> His original point has merit. The gun lobby uses all sorts of inane,
>>>> illogical slogans and arguments that they don't want disected by
>>>> anybody, hence your dismay. "If guns were illegal, only criminals
>>>> would have guns." Truly asinine. What would stop the "Law Abiding
>>>> Citizen" from continuing to hold onto his guns?
>>>
>>> The law.
>>>
>>> If he retained his gun in violation of the law, then he would be a
>>> criminal.
>>>
>>> QED.
>>>
>>> Are you just practicing to be this stupid, or does it come naturally to
>>> you?
>>>
>>>
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>> By the way how do you balance that (a law that says you can't have a gun
>> for some reason or other), and the Constitution which states that the
>> government can't pass a law that infringes on the right to bear arms ?
>
> Easy, the law is Unconstitutional. If I chose to violate that law then I
> may well be seen as a criminal. I may even be convicted as a criminal. I
> would be a criminal for violating the law, even one that is wrong. Now
> whether that law is overturned as illegatimate and the charge against me
> overturned as a result...well, that's another story.
>
>
>
>> If such a law is unconstitutional, then how can you be a "criminal" if
>> you ignore an unconstitutional law ?
>
> By violating the law. Just because the law is wrong, doesn't make it right
> for you to violate it for no good reason. Two wrongs, don't make a right.
> If you're going to violate the law then you had better be prepared to
> accept the consequences of that action which among others may mean you're
> a criminal. I chose not to be a criminal, until and unless circumstances
> force me to chose between what is right and what is the law. If I chose
> what is right, I accept that I may be criminal for doing so. That is the
> consequences of my actions. Until such a time I shall comply with the law
> as much as I'm able.
>
>
Actually, I"m getting more radical about things.
I believe that we will soon need to go out and do intentional disobediance
of the law and challenge it's constitutionality.
Right now, I'm wondering if we shouldn't start challenging the rules of
having to be unarmed in Federal buildings by having individuals file "pro
se" cases against the Feds in Federal Court.
Ditto for challenging the TSA enforcing a weapons ban at airports.
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