Re: Intelligent Design cannot explain the origin of intelligence.

On Mon, 6 Feb 2012 05:35:04 -0800 (PST), Burkhard <b.schafer@xxxxxxxx>
wrote:

On Feb 6, 1:03 pm, rossum <rossu...@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Mon, 6 Feb 2012 03:37:28 -0800 (PST), backspace



<stephan...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Jan 30, 10:44 pm, rossum <rossu...@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Well, if you start with a designer who is intelligent, then you
obviously haven't explained the origin of intelligence, have you.
Where did the intelligent designer get his/her/its/their intelligence
from? ID has no answer.

What is the ID explanation for the origin of intelligence?

rossum

This is the If God made us who made God question. God is defined as
not made. Lets generalize the question:
Why is a phenomena defined as possessing certain attributes, not have
those attributes.

Thus the question is irrational.

I am not questioning the intelligence of the Intelligent Designer.  As
you say, that would indeed be ridiculous.

Is it? I wonder. I don't think the term "intelligent" can be
consistently applied at least to the omnipotent/omniscient creator
gods of monotheistic religions. You can't be all three of them,
omnipotent, omniscient and intelligent.

I suppose a more dedicated Googler than I could identify a rather
charming short story I heard on the radio a few years ago. It was the
baffled musings of God about humans: intelligence being an emergent
property, it took the Creator completely by surprise, and he could
never get over the insane things people did under its influence. As a
spiritual and intuitive being, he'd anticipated mankind's transport
problem by providing elegant and sustainable solutions such as the
camel; but mankind insisted on inventing the internal-combustion
engine. Etc.
[...]

--
Mike.

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