# Re: Chez Watt: (long) Re: Narmer of Egypt

On Feb 2, 1:56 pm, Suzanne <leila...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Jan 26, 8:57 am, jillery <69jpi...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

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Ahhh..."refuses" is the right word, but not for the reasons you
presume. I think I am more subborn for "you that oppose me" than all
of you that are doing that are stubborn against me.

Your ideas listed above about the flood being local are not logical.
The dove could have outflown a local flood, Jillery, and found ground
upon which to light with the sole of her foot.

The account of the flood is not written as an allegory, given the
great amount of details that have been written. The general
instructions are given in the account. The details of the calendar are
given and much math which can help someone to determne what calendar
is used. The very day the people entered the ark is given. Certain
dates are given during the flood. The location of the ark is given,
nad we can deduce it
likely would be the specific mountain called Ararat today is likely
because it is the tallest mountain in Turkey and the likely
place from which one could observe when the other mountains had begun
to be visible once the waters
started to drain off.

That the story is in the bible does not prove it is a fact. Laws of
physics say that one is impossible. Take just the "where did the
water come from?" problem.

YOu are a proponent of the canopy so let's see what Answers in
Genesis has to say about it:

http://www.answersingenesis.org/get-answers/topic/arguments-we-dont-use

Last sentence of their discussion of the vapor canopy:
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A vapor canopy holding more than 7 feet (two meters) of rain would
cause the earth’s surface to be intolerably hot, so a vapor canopy
could not have been a significant source of the flood waters.

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A couple other problems:

Light: There is that known FACT that light cannot penetrate more than
200 meters of water. Thus a canopy that held enough water to
contribute significantly to a world wide floode would block all
light. Logical conclusion: If there had been such a 'canopy' prior
to Ye Floode, the world would have been in total darkness.

Pressure: adding that much water to the atmosphere would have
increased the atmospheric pressure to lethal levels

So where did all that water come from again?

If someone could show you the actual ark on Ararat, what then? Would
it affect what you believe?

Of course that will neer happen so the question is moot.

How might that affect you or anyone reading this that didin't think
the flood of Noah really took place?

We don't "think" is didn't happen, we _know_ it didn't.

And...what do any of you know about what is known about Ararat
and the remains of the ark?

That there are no remains of an ark up there.

Harry K

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