Re: Intelligent Design cannot explain the origin of intelligence.

On Jan 31, 12:10 pm, Kalkidas <e...@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 1/31/2012 12:06 PM, Craig Franck wrote:



On 1/31/2012 1:32 PM, Kalkidas wrote:
On 1/30/2012 6:49 PM, wiki trix wrote:
On Jan 30, 4:38 pm, Kalkidas<e...@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 1/30/2012 4:44 PM, rossum wrote:

On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 16:17:11 -0700, Kalkidas<e...@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

On 1/30/2012 3:44 PM, rossum wrote:
Well, if you start with a designer who is intelligent, then you
obviously haven't explained the origin of intelligence, have you.
Where did the intelligent designer get his/her/its/their
intelligence
from? ID has no answer.

What is the ID explanation for the origin of intelligence?

Intelligence need not have a starting point.
Then you agree that ID has no explanation for the origin of
intelligence?

Then you agree that intelligence need not have a starting point?

Nothing need have a starting point. Duh...

No. Any process of counting or measuring needs a starting point.

You could WRT time, for instance, make the present moment time
zero and work forward or backwards.

That's
why those whose worldview is mechanistic reductionism, which insists
that the only things that exist are things which can be counted and
measured, cannot really conceive of something that exists but has no
starting point.

"For something to exist now, something always had to exist" is
a proposition compatible with a totally physicalist worldview.

Nothing comes from nothing, sure. That's compatible with almost all
worldviews. You can't even reason without it.

Google zero-point vacuum fluctuation.

Stuart

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