Re: googlefubar?



On Sun, 03 Jul 2011 19:23:11 +0100, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by Mike Lyle
<mike_lyle_uk@xxxxxxxxxxx>:

On Sat, 02 Jul 2011 09:30:39 -0700, Bob Casanova <nospam@xxxxxxxx>
wrote:

On Fri, 01 Jul 2011 14:32:40 -0400, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by r norman
<r_s_norman@xxxxxxxxxxx>:

On Fri, 1 Jul 2011 18:17:39 +0000 (UTC), Christopher Denney
<chris.donotspammeever@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

*Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
news:a-ydnQR-RtM5n5PTnZ2dnUVZ_s-dnZ2d@xxxxxxxxxxxx:

On 07/01/2011 12:58 PM, Christopher Denney wrote:
so, from reading the other testing related posts it seems that Google
is broken, again. Are they just trying to make people stop using them
for news completely? I like to go by the saying "never attribute to
malice what can be adequately explained by stupidity" But all the
screw-ups Google is perpetrating on Usenet users is beginning to look
like malice.

I don't use GG, but I'm getting the impression that things have gotten
really screwy there lately and that probably results in a nosedive in
newsgroup activity across the board. Google is pushing toassert itself
in some many tech areas, from applications like Chrome, Google Earth,
and a new social networking venture (Google+) to gadgets like Android
smartphones to Chromebook netbooks. They seem to want to maintain
Google Groups, but it looks like they're causing many problems. Looks
like the time is ripe for another developer or group of developers to
make a competitive web-based usenet platform that people could
subscribe to. Could they get the breadth of access to groups Google
has and could they be viable? Do enough people use usenet anymore that
this would be something with a niche that warrants the effort?

I'd say people should step away from Google Groups and use traditional
reader/server methods. Ease of use benefit doesn't negate inability to
be useful cost or widespread usenet dysfunction cost.

The broken threads problem alone would disrupt the readability of
non-GG users. This is a travesty!



I think I may have asked this before, but aside from tin, I've never really
used anything but xnews for usenet. What does everyone like for a newreader
these days? (I loaded up xnews so I could actually ask and get answers) :)

I like Forte's Agent enough to pay for it.

Same here.

I paid the modest fee for it, but I'm not yet sure I like it. Many or
most evenings somewhere around ten-eleven o'clock BST, it hangs up in
a rather odd way: if I'm interested enough in a thread to persevere, I
can inch my way through a click at a time by double-clicking the Agent
icon on my desktop. It usually displays a message claiming my news
server cut out; but I don't think this can be true, as Agent itself
won't even shut down.

I can also cause Agent to grey out and hang by opening the reply
window, selecting text, and "leaning" my cursor on the left-hand edge
of the Agent window for a few moments. On such occasions, though, it
will shut down and start again.

I'm willing to believe there's something strange in my PC, of course,
as I've never heard any similar complaint from any other user. One of
these days I'll care enough to go into an Agent newsgroup and see if
anybody can shed light on the problems.

The "features" you describe are ones I've never encountered
(nor heard of) so I tend to suspect it's some sort of weird
interaction with your hardware or with some other software
running simultaneously. I *have* encountered this sort of
"don't play well together" with other programs, just not
with Agent, and some of them turned out to be
hardware-related.
--

Bob C.

"Evidence confirming an observation is
evidence that the observation is wrong."
- McNameless

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