Re: I want to be a creationist

On Saturday, March 5, 2011 7:46:31 AM UTC-6, Nashton wrote:
On 3/4/11 6:08 PM, John Bode wrote:
On Thursday, March 3, 2011 9:13:44 PM UTC-6, bible...@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
On Feb 21, 3:43�pm, Frank J<f....@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I want to be a creationist. But you "creationists" won t let me.

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Who am I supposed to believe?

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OK. You want to know who to believe? Just look at the track record.

Piltdown Man
Nebraska Man
Tasaday Tribe
Archeraptor
Humanist groups Noah's Ark hoax against ICR
Nobody was actually teaching evolution so the evolutionists lied in
the Scopes trial.

How in the bloody goddamned hell does that answer his question?

Oooo, uptight much?


I'm at work on a Sunday (and my birthday) trying to sort out build issues caused by migrating to a new virtual machine that won't let me attach my old build environment (which for some reason corrupts the superblock of the new VM to the point where it can't even boot), so I have to reproduce everything from scratch, which takes forever on its own, and AFTER I GET THAT WORKING I can focus on my *actual* problem, which is updating an interface to an external service (which I've never had 100% success interfacing with) at the last minute before a demo that will pretty much determine whether I have a job three months from now.

So, yeah, a little stressed (which is why I'm taking time out during a built to yell at people on the Internet).

And just kind of amazed how certain posters manage to flaunt their total lack of clue, time after time after time after time. It's like asking someone to add 2+2 and getting the answer "blue".

Do you people just not *understand* direct questions, or are you all just genetically predisposed to argue in bad faith?

*Which* version of creationism/IDism is the right one, if evolution
is wrong?

Which version of evolution are we do believe? The latest and greatest or
the one that will appear 2, 10 or 20 years from now?


There's but one version of *evolution*; there are disagreements over details, but not the fundamental concept. The distribution of inherited traits in a population vary over succeeding generations; variation + selection account for this change.

You can argue over how much weight to assign natural vs. sexual selection, you can argue over exact paths of descent, you can argue over whether the granularity of the fossil record is a result of punctuated equilibrium vs. poor preservation and sampling, you can argue over modes of speciation, etc.

However, there are any number of creation stories that don't just vary in details, but in their fundamental thesis. YEC and OEC are incompatible with each other, which are in turn incompatible with Hindu creation stories, which are incompatible with any number of aboriginal creation stories, etc. Is it one God or many gods? One single act of creation or many?

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