Re: Is the Universe Fine Tuned for Life? 2



On 19 Nov, 22:15, John Harshman <jharsh...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
spintronic wrote:
On 19 Nov, 19:22, John Harshman <jharsh...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
spintronic wrote:
On 18 Nov, 22:56, John Harshman <jharsh...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
HighQ wrote:
On 18 Nov, 14:44, John Harshman <jharsh...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
HighQ wrote:
On 18 Nov, 00:22, John Harshman <jharsh...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
spintronic wrote:
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Unless you make the
additional assumptions that evolution will inevitably lead to
technological civilizations, and that these civilizations will last in
that state for significant fractions of the duration of the universe.
But if we are here and you say we evolved, you are wrong about 1) from
the getgo.
Why? You are saying that if something happens once, therefore it will
happen every time? If Bob wins the lottery on November 17, that means
everyone will win the lottery every day?.
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Just sobering up, so I'll post later, but this is a silly argument.
On that we agree. Perhaps you should stop posting while drunk.
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Lets say bob enters every week, with the same ((numbers) /
(combination of chemicals))
If he does so for 13,983,816 weeks he must win once.
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That betrays a poor understanding of probability. In fact there is no
requirement that he will ever win, no matter what the chance of winning,
But there is equally a probability that he will win every time..

Perhaps you don't know what "must" means.
Sure I do. It means it must be one or the other.
Which is it?
Ah, I see you *don't* know what "must" means. You said that Bob must win
the lottery. That means the probability of him winning is 1. And that
was wrong.
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Bob bought 13million tickets. Therer are only 13 million combinations.

If that's what you're saying, you have made up your own analogy,

*BOB* is your idea, dont blame me if he doesn't like you.

If you was listening instead of bloating, you would realise, your
analogy sucked.

I am the most humble person on the planet, If you argue stupidness, I
aint that humble.


and it's a really bad analogy having nothing to do with mine.


*BOB* is YOURS.

I never changed him.


But in that case, and if each ticket is different, Bob will win exactly once. Which
makes all your other verbiage nonsense.


BOB thus wins 1 in 13million times.

I gave you 30 million planets within 4 billion years.

So we have 105 million *BOBS*.

Where are they?



(BTW, don't ever quote the probability of nucleotides forming peptides
ever again)
I don't recall ever having done so, and don't intend to, independently
of your advice.

I do, and I doubt, and I suggest you take up the offer.

What offer?

My advice.

Why can't you keep up?


And I'm afraid I don't trust the memory of a drunk.

If he is outsmarting you tenfold. I would listen.


And thus, the probability levels out at 1 in 13million.
Why?
Because you have 3 options
1) The probability is 1/13million.
2) There is a probability it will never happen.
3) There is a probability it will happen every time.
Since;
2) / 3) = 50/50 = 1
That leaves 1*option 1)
That was entirely senseless.

Try again.

I already told you how to win the lottery tonight. I doubt you would
keep responding if I were wrong.

What is your rationale for this doubt?


So you don't doubt?


Neither would I.

I have just told the world how to win the lottery.


Why can't you do something similar, like tell the world how to stop
wars, or cancer?

I cured some disease in a different thread. I explained DE & DM in
another.

Why don't any of you listen?


You should never attempt to discuss probability.

Why? I just told you how to win the lottery, (If you have enough
money)

Because you are incompetent at it.


I don't have enough money.

You need £40 million U.K pounds,

You need patience..

You need a 3 week rollover,

And you need to keep going.

Average earnings £4million per attempt


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