Re: BBC the creationist at the museum

On Nov 3, 4:11 pm, TheMac37 <mac3...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Nov 2, 8:53 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:





On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 17:01:04 -0800 (PST), in talk.origins
TheMac37 <mac3...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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On Nov 2, 8:22 am, Tim Norfolk <timsn...@xxxxxxx> wrote:

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Let me try and make sense of your position:

1. Scientists can only make observations of 'now', even though any
'now' is gone instantly.
2. The Bible contains absolute factual 'truth'.

How do you ever find your car keys, since their placement is dependent
on memory?

Physical law states that objects at rest will stay at rest unless
acted on by a force. I place my keys on a desk, which is rotating with
its surroundings on a planet, that is orbiting a class G main sequence
star. You, me and my keys are also being hurled around the center of
the Milky Way at terrorizing speeds but wait... the galaxy is also
moving with the local group in THAT direction (pointing to the right
and slightly up). Thank God that there is order in the universe or my
keys could end up anywhere. Actually, friend, in all seriousness. I
would state things this way.
1. Scientist can only speak definitively on things they can measure
and test, just like all of us. Anything beyond that is mere
speculation.

Yet you impose an artificial and ignorant limit on what you think they
are able to measure and test. That is an error you need to correct in
your thinking.

2 The Bible IS absolute Truth.

So you claim, yet there are clearly mistakes in the Bible.

Far beyond any thing from the fallen
mind of man.What it says is definitive. That is it ! The word ends the
matter.

Why? Who are you to tell me that some old book is unquestionable. You
have no evidence to support your claim.

I do not tell you. The Bible tells you it is Truth. You have to answer
for your rejection of it yourself.- Hide quoted text -

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I'll start you on an easy one:

Genesis 1:20
And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving
creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the
open firmament of heaven. Genesis 2:19
And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field,
and every fowl of the air

So which version is the "only true one? Water or Ground?

The bible contains hundreds of contradictions just like the above.

The fundies maintain that the bible was written by man under God's
direction. Seems odd that God couldn't keep his stories straight from
one verse to another.

Harry K

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