Re: consequences of skepticism of evolution theory

In article <oiixm.32531$6f4.22886@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, Garamond Lethe wrote:
On 2009-10-02, calvin <crice5@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Oct 2, 12:58 am, Garamond Lethe <cartographi...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
On 2009-10-02, calvin <cri...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

[trimmage hither and thither]

You wouldn't by chance be an engineer, would you?

No, but you're getting warm; my degree is a BS in Applied
Math. The 'applied' means that I had to take many physics
courses, plus three engineering courses. The school was
Georgia Tech. I graduated in 1961.

No stats courses then? With your background I would have
thought you'd be digging up the original data.

digressing:
My bachelor's was Applied Math, from the school of engineering.
I'm pretty sure that I took more than 3 engineering courses.
Certainly far more than 3 from the school of engineering.

Most of what I do in my day job is what I consider engineering.

[trim]

It hadn't occurred to me, no. I think there needs to be intent to
deceive for lying to occur, and you're honestly repeating what
you believe to be true.

At some point lack of due diligence would become a sin, I suppose.

Culpable ignorance was the best term suggested when I asked for
group wisdom about alternatives to 'lying'. Mere ignorance or
simple error are not interesting, nor deserving of any particular
term. But, when you have people saying that X should be taught
in school because Y, it becomes a matter of some importance that
Y is actually true. The person wanting X to be taught to everybody
has some responsibility to examine whether Y is actually true.
Merely repeating things that others say is a defence against it
being a lie.

But there comes a time when you are responsible to see if your source
is actually correct. In the case of the '400', even casual examination
of the list would have shown calvin that many were not scientists,
hence it wasn't a list of 400 scientists. An even more trivial
effort would have shown that it was a political list, rather than
scientific, though he claimed (repeated the newspaper) it to be
scientific.

--
Robert Grumbine http://moregrumbinescience.blogspot.com/ Science blog
Sagredo (Galileo Galilei) "You present these recondite matters with too much
evidence and ease; this great facility makes them less appreciated than they
would be had they been presented in a more abstruse manner." Two New Sciences

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