Re: Do evolutionists have the answers? (don't be silly)

Hatunen wrote:
On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 13:59:59 -0500, Pulse <feralpulse@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Hatunen wrote:
On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 01:27:40 -0700 (PDT), spintronic
<spintronic@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


Let me ask you another question.


A proton has 1.6726231*10^-27Kg.
A electron has 9.1093897*10^-31Kg.

After they bind and lose

(2 * (pi^2) * ((1 / (4 * pi * (8.854187817 * (10^(-12)))))^2) *
((1.60217733 * (10^(-19)))^4) * (9.1093897 * (10^(-31)))) /
((6.6260755 * (10^(-34)))^2) = 2.17987406 × 10-18j

What is their mass?

Oh that's right.

It's less.
I'm not sure where you got your math, but the mass of a proton is
1.0061 amu and the atomic mass of an electron is 5.489 E-4 amu.
The atomic mass of a hydrogen atom is 1.00794 amu. Obviously, the
mass of a hydrogen atom is greater than the sum of the masses of
its component proton and electron. The increase in mass is
largely due to the binding energy.

I hate to contradict you, but what you have cited as the atomic mass of hydrogen is actually the atomic weight. There's a subtle difference. The atomic weight is a weighted average of the masses of all isotopes of an element given their natural rate of appearance. For hydrogen, this includes isotopes with one or two neutrons. Thus, the atomic weight of the element hydrogen is necessarily larger than the atomic mass of a single hydrogen-1 atom.

And this is a collective usage. The question doesn't involve a
single or a small group of atoms, so the use of atomic weight
would be quite appropriate.

In any case, the claim was posted as involving an electron and a
proton. I can go ahead and use 1.007825 amu for the H-1 isotope
and and 1.0061 amu for the proton, 5.894 E-4 for the electron,
almost the same gain in mass.

So what's your point here?

I'm only interested in accuracy. I'm not particularly interested in your conclusion. I just want to make sure you're honest with your premises.

.

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