Re: OT: Senator Edward Kennedy

In article <h7cso5$e4i$8@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Paul J Gans <gans@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Matt Silberstein <RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 11:00:33 -0400, in talk.origins , Walter Bushell
<proto@xxxxxxxxx> in <proto-53FCE0.11003229082009@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

In article <hg8e951fkj1sa7a8f71pp5h97smikn0tou@xxxxxxx>,
Matt Silberstein <RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 01:13:02 +0000, in talk.origins , *Hemidactylus*
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Klaus Hellnick wrote:

Walter Bushell wrote:
In article <h748f401s2g@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
"Ouroboros Rex" <its@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Tim DeLaney wrote:
On Aug 26, 2:52 pm, "Dick C." <foo.dic...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Mitchell Coffey <m.cof...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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I've just learned that Sen. Edward Kennedy died a few hours ago.
Mitchell Coffey
Very sad. While much of his time in office was constantly
overshadowed by the death of the young woman, he did do a lot of
good.

Perhaps that's true (some would argue otherwise), but his actions
at
Chappaquiddick should have disqualified him from serving in the
Senate. He disgraced himself, to say nothing of his family name,
and
should have retired from public life.
e
Not according to the current standard for the opposition. =)

At least he learned that "I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.",
is
*not* always the optimal strategy.

It pretty much was a one time event a moral mistake to be sure, but
forgotten if no one was killed or crippled.


What? He OFTEN drove drunk. It was the only time we know of that he
killed someone.

Were you there to administer a sobriety test each and every time he
drove?
IMO he was a Senator of Mass. for WAY too long, but he arguably did some
good things despite his moral failings earlier in life. He couldn't
quite
stand in the shadows of JFK and RFK, but had to mourn their untimely
deaths.

I think that he accomplished far more than his brothers.

John got us to the Moon,

No, Johnson did.

and the civil rights legislation would not have
passed without him. Mayhap, he got it passed by passing.

It passed more because Johnson believed in it, worked for it for
years, and was willing to sacrifice the Democratic Party to get it
passed. Yes, he was also willing to use the memory of Kennedy to get
the job done.

I strongly doubt that we would have gotten to the moon without
Kennedy. He not only got the program authorized, he strongly
pushed it.

As for civil rights, again, without Kennedy I doubt that
Congress would have gone along with it. This does not
detract from Johnson's formulating and pushing the bill
(the arm twisting was notorious) in any way.

He didn't use arm twisting; he grabbed people by the balls.

.

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