Re: Darwin's principle of divergence - Tautology

On Jul 28, 10:07 am, Stephanus Janse van Rensburg
<srensbu...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Jul 28, 7:43 pm, Kermit <unrestrained_h...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

DAwkins refers to genes as "replication
mechanisms" steeped in the myth of the strong god killing the weak
seamonster, but genes replicating is an informational event.
It's a chemical event. It is only informational to the degree that we
interpret it as such.

Listen to the podcast by Wilkins on scienceblogs where he had a link
to it. He said that when a CD id copied we have a mathematical
abstraction taking place. Some physists now say that we don't even
know atoms and electrons exist, another author that he treats QM as
pure math, whether those particles actually exist we don't know.

What you refer to as a chemical event is true in the same way the CD
player a QM electron event takes place when the laser shines on its
surface, but at a higher layer of abstraction we are dealing with
information. Information is information it is neither matter nor
energy, which is why materialism is doomed.

Whatever the nature of material, however insubstantial it may be on
the bottom, I have not yet heard anything to make me think there is
anything else but matter and energy. If you think that ultimately
physics will be a way of describing energy through math, I have no
trouble with that emotionally, nor any reason to dispute that
possibility. I suspect you're right, but I am neither mathematician
nor scientist, so I can't make a strong case for it empirically or
theoretically.

If material events are best described mathematically, fine. I love
dancing, and it amuses me to say that the whole universe is a dance
(or symphony, or mathematical abstraction, or...). But you're only
saying that matter and energy may best be described mathematically.
That is *not claiming that there is anything else, or that they
(really the same stuff) don't exist.

I remember as a lad being fascinated when I heard that solid stuff was
mostly empty space. But it still hurts to kick a rock too hard, and
mental illness is still not caused by demons.

Kermit

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