Re: Collins to head NIH?

John S. Wilkins <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

TomS <TomS_member@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

"On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 20:54:13 +1000, in article
<1j2ysom.777qkqpl7g1eN%john@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, John S. Wilkins stated..."

TomS <TomS_member@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

"On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 18:29:24 +1000, in article
<1j2yly4.ounc712madoyN%john@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, John S. Wilkins stated..."

Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On 10 July, 22:49, Friar Broccoli <elia...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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Experiments can be done showing that people BELIEVE they are
making free choice. That's not the same as demonstrating actual
free will, as an objective (not just subjective) fact. Similarly
human rights are BELIEVED by most people to be an intrinsic
element of being human, not simply a contract obligation.

not by me. Hell you can't even come up with a definitive list
of "Intrinsic Human Rights"

As a famous person once said:-

"Morality is a spandrel of the game theoretic implications of the
society of symbol users.
We impute moral worth to the non-social world on that basis."
(John Wilkins TO)

we says it much better than I ever could. I don't doubt many people
believe human rights intrinsically exist. But most? Perhaps I
should do a survey.

Then there's Animal Rights... Me, I believe in Mineral Rights.

I'm a material rights advocate: rights for elements now! Free carbon
from subjugation by organic chemistry!

Do not some non-living things have rights?

I would say that the planet Mars has a right to exist.

I would not. Only agents have rights.
[...snip...]

Agents have duties. Patients have rights.

To have a right is to have a corresponding set of duties.

http://www.utilitarian.net/sidgwick/by/189310--.pdf

Wrong link, sorry. I meant to link to F H Bradley's chapter of _Ethical
Studies_: "My Station and it's Duties".
--
John S. Wilkins, Philosophy, University of Sydney
http://evolvingthoughts.net
But al be that he was a philosophre,
Yet hadde he but litel gold in cofre

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