Re: 48 hours time: Creationists help me: Two samples in ER..

[M]adman wrote:
Dana Tweedy wrote:
[M]adman wrote:
Kari Tikkanen wrote:
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And year was ..____ ? Answer was .. ____?

I am addressing the out of place wood.

Have you forgotten the wood floats?

That is where the wood ended up /after/ the water drained off.

In which case, the wood would have been on top of the stuff that didn't
float, not underneath it.






And year was :6 to 10 thousand years ago

Answer was: Probably from an area that was inhabited by man before
the flood.

There isn't any evidence of a global flood.

Perhaps there is no evidence.

no "perhaps" about it, there isn't any evidence of what one would expect to
find from a global flood.

*OR* perhaps everything we observe is
evidence.

If that were the case, everything we observe would look like the result of a
global flood. It doesn't look like it.

We have no way of knowing what the world would look like
before such an event. So the entire condition of our current earth may be
the evidence.

There are ways of knowing, such as observing non global floods, and looking
at what patterns they cause. You can then look in the geologic record, and
see if it matches what one would expect from a single worldwide flood.
By doing so, one can see that no global flood has happened.


Finding a piece of wood in such an unusual place is suggestive
evidence that something like a Noah's flood could have happened.

Actually, if one found a piece of wood in such an unusual place, that would
suggest, as I implied above, that no such global flood happened. Wood
floats, and one would not expect to find wood buried beneath rock, if there
had been such a flood.


Finding entire cities underwater is suggestive evidence as well.

No, finding "entire cities" underwater suggests that at various times, and
for various reasons, cities were flooded. Many events can cause a city to
flood. Earthquakes, tsunamis, deliberate, or accidental damming of rivers,
etc, etc. Just finding ruins under water doesn't mean they were flooded
all at once.

An
underwater Sphinx is suggestive evidence too.

Why? An "underwater Sphinx" could be dropped over the side of the boat,
(depending on the size of the Sphinx), or could be the result of an
Earthquake causing subsidence, as in the case of Alexandria. If you are
talking about the Sphinx near the pyramids in Giza, there's no evidence that
it was ever under water in it's current form. Of course the limestone the
Sphinx was carved from was formed by sediment deposition over millions of
years.

Add all of the
suggestive evidence (and there is a lot of it) to what has been
recorded by ancient people and I would say the probability of Noah's
flood is high.

None of the "evidence" you've presented is suggestive of a global flood.
The "records" of ancient people relate legends, and localized floods are not
an uncommon event. That doesn't help you either.

DJT



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