Re: Around

SortingItOut <eriley@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Jun 16, 12:57 am, "[M]adman" <ad...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
SortingItOut wrote:
On Jun 13, 10:48 pm, "[M]adman" <ad...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
SortingItOut wrote:
On Jun 12, 2:49 pm, "[M]adman" <ad...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Walter Bushell wrote:
In article <1j18bc9.1rrc2xf17fw3hqN%j...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
j...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx (John S. Wilkins) wrote:

Quantum Leaper <lea...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Caranx latus wrote:
Martin Andersen wrote:
[M]adman wrote:
Most everything in the universe has a cycle to it.

The cycles repeat and have been repeating for a very long
time.

You need a creator to put so many cycles in motion.

Not quite a Haiku yet, but keep trying.

Ev'rything cycles
Around, around and around
God is a cyclist.

God sounds more like dryer than a cyclist.

He's a spin doctor.

half spin or whole?

He throughly dries after he sends rain. Which is another cycle.

When God sends floods that kill people, whether it be good people,
bad people, or average people...is it punishment, or a favor, or
indifference?

Best I can tell, It was punishment for those that started the
corruption; and an (unfortunate) necessity for the rest.

My personal analogy is compared to a business. I have seen
businesses go under because of bad employees. Often a company will
go out of business, close it's doors, fire everyone and then reopen
with new management and new employees. Why? Because bad behavior and
bad attitudes are difficult to root out without a total house
cleaning _at times_. Sure, the management can hire new people while
the store is open but then the new employees pick up on the bad
habits and attitudes of the old employees that are already there. So
sometimes it is necessary to close the doors and then start over in
extreme cases.

That is what God seems to have done with the flood. As it is
described, the corruption on earth (of all kinds, unimaginable in
scope, even animals had become corrupted) had become so out of
control that the voices' of the dead and victimized rose to the very
gates of heaven where the archangels heard them and told God just
how bad things had become. God is described as being grieved that he
even made man because he knew what he had to do.

It became necessary to close the doors, go out of business on the
earth so to speak, and begin the human race over. This included
animals.

Today things are better albeit they are not perfect. We can even see
random acts of kindness today instead of complete random acts of
corruption and violence that must have been taking place back then
to force such drastic action.

Some could argue that the conquest of one nation by another was
equally as bad as when God flooded most of the world. But each
conquest brought man closer to civilization; closer to laws and
defined order; even though we have had some dark age periods.

One read of the Book of Judges when compared to civilization today
and one realizes mankind has come a long way. _Not far enough of
course_, but with each new millennium mankind seems to more forward
toward an increasing and better method of civilization. The third
worlds are trailing in this but real science seems to be helping
tremendously in the effort.

None of this positive foward movement of mankind would have been
possible without a flood of some sort (or other method of natural
destruction) that destroyed most of the corrupted life on earth. The
corruption had to be rooted out all at once by a natural processes
since this is a natural dimension (not a supernatural dimension)
that we live in.

I hope my opinion on what I have read so far on this subject was
helpful.

The reasons why and how mankind became so corrupt is an entirely
different discussion and the validity of it varies depending on
which version of history you deem more creditable.

adman.

Is this the same adman that writes all the crazy posts? Why so calm
for this one?

That's an interesting analogy on the flood that I hadn't heard
before. However, I was referring to modern-day floods. You said God
brings the rain, and since these rains are sometimes killing floods, I
was wondering why god is still killing people this way even today.

I have written many posts such as this one.

Pay attention.

And why the name change? That is a ban-able offense around here.

Hey, smart guy, I've been posting with the exact same account with the
exact same login and password for the last 5+ years. Any name change
that may have occurred was downstream of my keyboard.

I noticed a few months ago that what showed up on Google was not my
alias but my email address. I couldn't figure out why. After my
first fnord post a few days ago, all was corrected. You're the first
who's shown any concern over it.

One may change one's name occasionally. That is the nature of the
internet. Nymshifting to avoid detection by killfiles is bannable.
--
John S. Wilkins, Philosophy, University of Sydney
http://evolvingthoughts.net
But al be that he was a philosophre,
Yet hadde he but litel gold in cofre

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