Re: your research dollars working hard for you

"[M]adman" <adman@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Mike Dworetsky wrote:
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Chris wrote:
On Jun 6, 10:55 am, "[M]adman" <ad...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
"I personally think that a credible laughter concept can, and
already has been, extended to mammalian species as lowly as the
rat," [] " Panksepp and his colleagues have been documenting the
high-pitched vocalizations that rats make when they're tickled by
human handlers - and they insist that such vocalizations reflect
"laughter and social joy." But some skeptics have said it's too
much of a stretch to classify those sounds as true laughter."

(well. I sure got a laugh)

Meanwhile....

"A lack of research funding has slowed progress in developing new
treatments for lung cancer."[]
"The future of clinical research in general is reaching a national
crisis"

http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2009/06/04/1953175.aspxhttp://www.nationallungcancerpartnership.org/index.cfm?page=faq

We could solve this problem easily if we removed the asinine tax
exemption enjoyed by religious groups. No other hucksters or con
men get a free ride; why should churches?

Chris

Churches feed people; Churches have saved people from losing their
homes recently. Churches operate on donations that were already
taxed from the people that donated the money.

Wrong, at least in the USA.


Spending thousands of dollars to tickle a mouse and then wonder if
the mouse is really laughing does not feed anyone..

Get it?



You are in the USA, yes? You are ignorant of US tax law. I think you
probably never give to charities, or you would know that receipted
donations to bona fide charities (in the USA) are tax-deductible by
the donor.


Right. THAT is because the money they are donating has already been taxed.
So why tax it again when they donate it to help feed the homeless? The tax
deduction recieved saves the government from having to feed them.


You are so obtuse you could not even form a triangle.

If you get a tax deduction it means you do not pay income tax on the money
earned and given to the charity. It is not "already taxed." If you are
referring to withholding tax that is a different matter and you get it back
as a refund in these situations.


In the USA churches, synagogues, mosques, and other religious
institutions can also receive donations, as charitable contributions,
that the donor may then deduct from their gross income on which they
would pay tax. Tax law assumes that most people normally give small
amounts to charities and allows a fixed amount annually to be
deducted unreceipted. So unless you give more than the standard
allowance you would not need to make a special claim. And donations
can be in kind rather than monetary. I recall that one year
President Clinton's return showed that he donated his used underwear
(hopefully laundered) to some charity and claimed an itemized
deduction.

In the UK, donations are never deductible, but one can complete a
form and "gift-aid" the contribution, and the charity can then claim
back a sum from the treasury equal to the amount of tax paid
(actually a sort of averaged figure). The donor can list these but
they only have a beneficial effect if the taxpayer is in a higher
than standard bracket, as they have the effect of lifting the
threshhold for higher rate.

(While this helps to prevent abuses, both charities and government
have to employ many people to (a) prepare the submissions and (b)
process them. Amazingly, gift-aid is a relatively recent
liberalisation of the rules. Previously a charity could claim back
tax on donations only if they were "covenanted" through regular
donations. The US system removes the onus on the charity to hire
staff to administer and submit the claims, reducing their
administrative overheads.)

Donations to religious organisations may be done through gift-aid in
the UK.



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Mike Dworetsky

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