Re: Another question for IDers

Reading from news:talk.origins,
"[M]adman" <adman@xxxxxxxxxx> posted:

Inez wrote:
Isn't it fair then to assume that a designer who designed, say, the
rabies virus did so for the purpose of inflicting rabies on the
various mammals that get rabies? Why else would a designer make such
a thing? Do any of you ID folks want to comment on the purpose of
life, as divined through examining the ID'd portions of it?

As an aside I notice that no actual IDer answered my last question.
Don't you guys want to examine your beliefs?

Look freak, the answer is clear... you have found nothing in the universe
that even remotely resembles life on earth.

I've noticed that science-minded people like Ye Old One and Andre, are
determined to keep humans as low and close to gorillas and chimps as they
possibly can.

When UFO nuts bring up that there just /has/ to be life out there
somewhere in the universe, possibly explaining many of our sightings, the
scientific skeptic says there's no evidence, so everyone who claims to see
a UFO is either seeing a strange military craft, or they're hallucinating.
End of story. Why? No proof that aliens exist. And of course, there's
no proof that they would accept that God exists. The only thing they know
is that we are apes. I can understand refuting UFO sightings. I can
understand no evidence for alien life. What bugs me is not knowing why
science doesn't see the lack of evidence for alien life as a kind of
responsibility for us to open doors more quickly, and do ALL the research,
not just what seems "feasible" based on previous research.

Aricebo.

http://www.cropcircleresearch.com/articles/arecibo.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arecibo_message

In the case of the Aricebo/Chilbolton formation, the one that was seen as
a response to the transmission that Frank Drake and Carl Sagan worked on,
Seth Shostak was unimpressed. He thinks it would be silly for an alien
race to leave that formation in our fields as a response; he asks why they
didn't leave a copy of the Encyclopedia Galactica, instead. (Naturally
wants his science on a silver platter.) But we sent the first message.
Why would aliens respond with the Encyclopedia Galactica if all we sent
was a binary data map?

I know what's coming now. People are going to respond and say, "But it
takes 25,000 years for the message to reach M13, so it'll be another
25,000 years before we get a response." Pfft... Always limiting aliens by
science's best understanding of the laws of physics. How do we know that
any alien race wouldn't have the technology to use quantum entanglement to
monitor our radio waves from 25,000 light years away, without actually
having to travel here to do it?. They would have the technology to grab
signals from a distance instead of waiting for them to arrive. They could
have grabbed the signal, waited a while, then put together a response,
then teleported to Earth to plop down a new crop formation. It was their
way of telling us that they have the technology to do this. It didn't
take 50,000 years to get a response. And if they aren't in M13 and still
follow the laws of physics, it meant something in between here and M13 was
13.5 light years away or less. The message was sent in 1974, and a
"response" appeared in 2001. Abiding by the laws of physics, that makes
the possibility of it being a legitimate response better. I'm not saying
I have a 100% belief that it's of an extraterrestrial origin, but I do
think that Seth Shostak's expectation of the Encyclopedia Galactica, in
response to a 210-byte binary message, is a totally unrealistic
explanation. That would be like us making a hand signal to a chimp, and
expecting him to reply with a perfect Beethoven's 5th Symphony, complete
with an orchestra, stage, and a host of chimp players.

The chances that millions upon billions of life forms (that have ever
existed on this planet) organized themselves into life from otherwise
lifeless materials by random chance, and then kept that process of life
going for billions of years, is beyond astronomical to say the least.

THAT someone or something equals a designer, a creator, a God, or what ever
name you wish to use. You can rationalize that fact away, but it will not
change the simple fact that life appears designed upon close examination.
Just as Sean says.

So it becomes THAT simple. We have a creator that is absent at the moment
for whatever reason.

The problem with being the actual creator is that people have so much
experience with dealing with schizophrenics and lunatics that I can
actually be the real creator, say it outright, and not be concerned
because I just blend in with all the lunatics. For me, it's an exercise
in futility. I get the rush of coming out of the closet, while knowing
nobody is going to believe me. It's the best of both worlds.

I had been concerned about truly crazy people seeing some of my messages
and coming to "test me" to see if they could somehow kill me, but so far,
nothing like that has happened. I'm not sure what the result would be if
I were killed since I'm here to make everyone immortal. I'm not even sure
how dangerous it is to talk about it online. But since I was born without
a memory of having been the creator, I do know that nothing I post here is
necessary, yet at the same time, I can't help feeling the sense that my
postings help in some way. That I have such a keen interest in posting
makes me enjoy it, so in that, I don't feel there's anything I could do to
harm the process. So since every day feels like I'm living on the edge of
reality, I just post what I post. So far I haven't destroyed myself.

Damaeus

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