Re: BBC hates nature
- From: Erwin Moller <Since_humans_read_this_I_am_spammed_too_much@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 11:15:16 +0200
stew dean schreef:
On 7 Apr, 17:34, "nando_rontel...@xxxxxxxxx"
<nando_rontel...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
You basically admitted that you dont understand freedom when you said
you were looking for an answer wen you were 17. Put all your argument
up front in all honesty, and lose gloriously. You know you have no
chance.
Nando,
You have no definition of freedom. You have no meaning of freedom. You
don't know what alternatives are, what free will is, what a decision
is and even what knowledge is.
Free will is the illusion that you have complete freedom over what you
choose to do. In reality you only make conscious decisions over a
minority of all the decisions you make (that's true for everyone).
Hi Stew,
Daniel Dennet would reply here that even these appearantly concious decisions are an illusion too.
The decision is made: you only have an experience that you made that decision (which you did in a certain sense, since your body DID actually make that decision).
An important question here is: Is the universe deterministic? Does everything happen because it couldn't have happened in any other way?
Our current understanding of the universe includes the behaviour of the very small: quantummechanics, where randomness really is a fact of life.
If that is correct, we would have an nondeterministic universe.
But that still doesn't mean some spirit-like connection exists with our will/soul/whatever with our materialistic univerve, as most religions want us to believe.
Ah well, facinating subject. :-)
Regards,
Erwin Moller
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