Re: A simple question for Adman

richardalanforrest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
On Mar 2, 1:58 pm, "[M]adman" <g...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
richardalanforr...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
On Mar 2, 9:16 am, "[M]adman" <g...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
richardalanforr...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
On Mar 1, 9:32 pm, "[M]adman" <g...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
richardalanforr...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
On Mar 1, 7:47 pm, "[M]adman" <g...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
richardalanforr...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
Can you give us an example of something which is not created?

RF

Surly you did not mean to ask such a broad question

I did

RF

In that case. No

So what's the point of making posts about some character of
humans, and then claim that it is proof of creation?

RF

They are not "some characters".

They are unique characteristics held by humans.

All species have unique characters.

Which is why they were created as well. Each has the specific skills
neded for survival.


All electrons are identical. No electron has any characteristic which
is not found in all other electrons.

Are electrons created?




Beyond the cause and effect
of evolution.

Even if this were true - and it isn't - why does this "prove" that
they are created?

Don't you find it intresting that the very nutrients that our body
needs to run the most efficent grows in the ground and it grows at
the perfect time of the year? Such as cabbage and broccoli are
winter crops and loaded with what we need to fight colds while
summer crops do similar?

What's wrong with the scientific explanation for the evidence?


And evolution has not effected their nutrient content whatsoever


No, but the choice of foods we chose to domesticate has.



Are you suggesting that humans are in some way *more* created than
anything else?

Just a bit better in some ways.



But I suspect you know this already.

What exactly are you suggesting? That I secretly know that human
characters could not have evolved and am lying about it?

I would not call it lying


So what *are* you claiming?



Is your line of "questioning" going somewhere and can we get there
a bit quicker?

I'm merely exposing the utter idiocy of claiming as "proof" of
creation some characteristic of humans, when you believe that
everything else was created as well.

well.....You get an " *F* "

I suggest that you are not the best judge of that.


The entire 'each after his own kind' in the bible includes the
individual characteristics of each created kind.


So please: give us a biologically meaningful definition of "kinds". No
creationist seems able to do so.


Broccoli and carrots grow in the same dirt, use the same sun light,
exist in the same atmosphere yet they produce different nutrient
content.

That's because they are different species and have a different genome.

Ah. Such as humans and apes have a different gnome?





They were created to do so.

And we just have to take your word for this, do we?

*How* were they created?


They were created for your consumption and they possess the very
nutrients that you just so happen to need

There's a long history of domestication of food plants. They are very
different from their wild ancestors, and they have been selectively
bred for nutritional value. It's a form of evolution.

If the food plants we use are created by evolutionary processes, why
is evolution not a good explanation for how humans were created? After
all, that's what the evidence shows.

What alternative explanation which can be tested using the tools of
science are you proposing. "They were created" is not much of an
explanation.


how about THAT

It's an excellent demonstration of the intellectual vacuity of your
postiton.

RF-

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