Re: Pt. 9 Louis Agassiz - Darwin's Contemporary
- From: "Mike Dworetsky" <platinum198@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 17:53:35 -0000
"Helllllppp" <edwardtbabinski@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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From: "Sharon"
To: Edward Babinski
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 2:05 AM
Subject: Louis Agassiz (Darwin's Contemporary)
Charles Darwin certainly recognized there was an oddity about the
fossil record.
Cambrian Explosion -- simply astounding how life just seemed to "come
out of nowhere".
Sounds like a Sun coming into contact with the earth, for the first
time... somewhere around 500 million years ago... instead of the
billions previously presumed.
Where did people get the idea the sun and earth came as a four billion
year old package deal?
Um, uh....oh! Teacher!! I know!!! Call on me before I pee from
excitement!! Astrophysics! Known rate of nucleosynthesis!! Comparison of
the Sun to observations of other stars and with calcualtions and models
based on known physics of gases and nuclear reactions.
Also, more recently, empirical confirmation from models of the vibrations of
the Sun which give insight into the central region's structure, yielding and
age of 4.6 billion years, same as meteorites and consistent with oldest
rocks.
You're right about the proliferation of bacteria... and if the sun was
there 4 billion years ago, life should have started branching, long
long long long ago, and not just a few million years ago.
It did, so what the hell are you blathering about?
I think the dilemma of what caused the drastic shift in the fossil
record is explained in Genesis 1, with day four of Creation
(introduction of the sun... not 4 billion years ago, that's only a
guesstimate about the earth itself. They can certainly tell you
_nothing_ about the sun... since they've already told you, they're
completely incapable to explain anything about the moon.)
Agassiz had it right when he proposed a theory called, "Epochs of
Creation".
Agassiz was a great scientist of his day, but he had it wrong.
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On 2/22/2009 2:12:18 AM, Edward Babinski wrote:
I guess Agassiz was right too when he went down South to photograph Black
people and wrote about the Black race being inferior, created that way by
Spare it Ed.
That has nothing to do with the facts at hand.
Cambrian Explosion = Sun coming into contact with earth around 500
million years ago... I'm not claiming the earth is only 6,000 years
old.
Wh..aa..tt?? Yer nuts. Except for the 6,000 year part.
Sorry. I know about the fossil record, and I'm not denying science.
The record in Genesis proposes a very scientific reality.
You are denying reality.
When you put a sun next to an Earth... you get a reaction, very
similar to the Cambrian Explosion.
True?
Yes.
No. You get a melted Earth. Hell, you get a vaporized Earth.
One thing Agassiz was right about was the glaciation theory, and the
overall age of the earth. He was no young-earth creationist.
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On 2/22/2009 2:14:44 AM, Edward Babinski wrote:
Life in the Cambrian did not explode out of nowhere.
Ed's 100% correct. You lose.
Ed. Don't try to wiggle out of this one, and escape in the cloud of
ink as Steve at CED accused once. I am not denying evolution of
species. Quite contraire! You yourself know, that Charles Darwin was
astounded with the shift in the fossil record...
The Cambrian Explosion... suddenly life *exploded* without
explanation.
And, you are wrong too. The Vendian contained many life-forms which
are like _nothing_ known in our modern world.
The point is there (the list of possible ways for early species to
gather nutrition) and we both know that it has been proposed by
scientists themselves, that life could have began around Hot Springs,
deep within the ocean... out of the reach of sunlight... anyway!!
You don't need a sun. That's the whole point.
But when the sun first came into contact with the earth (around 500
million years ago) *bang* the proliferation of life and species...
well, its sort of self-explanatory why scientists called it the
"Cambrian Explosion".
No, that's a ludicrous theory. Life may have begun around vents, but the
great proliferation of fossils in the Cambrian is as much due to the
emergence of hard body parts as anything else.
~
~ Check out the Vendian fossils, pre-Cambrian forms.
~
~ There were also plenty of plants and jellies and worms prior to the
~ "Cambrian explosion."
~
~ Before the jellies and worms are single-celled forms in the fossil
record.
~
~ Single-cells ruled for over a billion years.
WHAT IS THIS ABOUT A MERE BILLION YEARS? Let's stick those 2.5 BILLION
of bacteria, right back in there. Please.. no reducing the age of life
on the earth, thanks.
3.8 BILLION YEARS OF LIFE... AND YET, THE EARTH WOULD JUST "SIT THERE"
DOING NOTHING, UNDER A PHOTOSYNTHETIC SUN?!?! Throws a whole new
monkey wrench in Non-Theistic Evolution.
Why, the Cambrian Explosion (or something very similar) should have
took place around 3 billion years ago, instead of a mere 500 million
years ago.
Not really a mystery.
--
Mike Dworetsky
(Remove pants sp*mbl*ck to reply)
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