Re: Fundies Say The Darndest Things

On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 20:49:49 -0800 (PST), Ray Martinez
<pyramidial@xxxxxxxxx> enriched this group when s/he wrote:

On Feb 20, 6:38 pm, f...@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
On Feb 20, 2:35 pm, Ray Martinez <pyramid...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:



On Feb 19, 6:29 pm, Louann Miller <louan...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

snex <x...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in news:adf7a000-354e-435b-9d64-
7c2bfc6fe...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx:

UNLESS there is a giant outside source of energy supplying
the Earth with huge amounts of energy. If there were such a source,
scientists would certainly know about it."

Did Ray eventually get the word?

I never said what Snex quoted. Either Snex said it or someone else. If
you think otherwise then produce the link and quote. Of course Snex
did not produce a link. He has made a bad error OR communicated his
thoughts badly.

For the record: I supported Barack Obama for President and I think he
is an absolute genius. I am against the death penalty, and I support
abortion rights except for third trimester.

As you might know by now, probably more than any creationist or
"evolutionist" on TO, I am "on a mission" to dispel stereotypes that
drag down all sides. But I have to say that never in 4.5 billion years
would I have guessed that you'd be an Obama supporter (I'm not), and
further from the pro-life stereotype than I am.

I belong to a Church that
has led the way and fight against Fundamentalism. Our Church has been
publicly supported by past mayors and council members of the city of
Los Angeles, Jesse Jackson, Willie Brown and all the top Democrats in
the state of California during Brown's tenure in the California
legislature. I am a species immutabilist, accept an Old Earth, and we
acknowledge the King James Bible to contain hundreds, if not
thousands, translation errors.

You seem hung up on the concept of "species immutability" but are
hesitant to give details on what that means in terms of "where the
molecules went and when".

Molecules have nothing to do with the Creation-Evolution debate.
Evolution is not a change in gene frequencies. Evolution is about
several lines of evidence, each line deduced to support the claim that
species originate from a previously living species. The appearance of
change at the genetic level, or motion, has nothing to do with the
earth shattering claim of morphological speciation. Gene centricism is
like a submarine; at some point it must surface and show
correspondence with above water reality.

Is that because you are aware that many
people with (1) far greater knowledge of the science than you have,

Who is MY peer, Frank?

There isn't anyone who I have not pushed around. I am on the Internet
looking for intellectual fights.

Which is strange, since you have never won a single argument.

Just recently, Darwinist Allen
MacNeill is begging that I get banned here:

http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/darwin-reader-darwins-racism/#comment-304985

Another lie from you. He said "Why is Ray Martinez still allowed to
post here?" A very valid question considering your blatant dishonesty.

Pretty pathetic since the site is controlled by IDists like myself who
have ignored his cry for help. What made Allen wimper?

http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/darwin-reader-darwins-racism/#comment-304890

http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/darwin-reader-darwins-racism/#comment-305002

I enjoy being a thug who beats up on Darwinists.

And yet you only manage to do that in your dreams. In the real world
you have had your arse whipped so many times I doubt you will ever sit
down again.

and (2) are closer to fundamentalism than you, are convinced that
evolution is still the process by which God creates species?


Completely false.

Evolution does not exist.

Liar!

Science says God-did-it.

Liar!

You need to remember that I used to be a micro-evolutionist. Then, as
we all know, I investigated the claims of Darwinism. Two years later I
announced deconversion to immutability. I could find no evidence
supporting species mutability----none.

Then you were clearly not reading.

And, most importantly, I
stumbled onto evidence that refutes the main claim of Darwinism:
speciation.

Liar!

[snip more RayCrap(tm)]

--
Bob.

.

Relevant Pages

  • Re: Naturalistic Fallacy
    ... They are a part of Darwinian evolution. ... It is interesting to note that sometimes what we humans prefer to call the ... Few spots remain on earth that are ... ESCAPING each species' needing SOME kind of externality complex if it is to ...
    (sci.bio.evolution)
  • Re: The correct definition.
    ... These created kinds adapted as the earth changed over the ... a second creation in the garden of Eden ... process stops the progress of evolution which claims it needs lots ... species centered on the groups remaining after the extinction event. ...
    (talk.origins)
  • Re: The correct definition.
    ... These created kinds adapted as the earth changed over the ... upheavals the earth has suffered to continue the life cycle. ... process stops the progress of evolution which claims it needs lots ... species centered on the groups remaining after the extinction ...
    (talk.origins)
  • Re: A Few Simple Questions
    ... evolution, Ray Martinez is saying the Bible is false. ... Are you saying that this verse is talking about the whole Earth? ... that all of the animal species on Earth were on the Ark? ... implies that the creation was over and done with after six days. ...
    (talk.origins)
  • Re: Atheists support evolution because evolution supports their
    ... because evolution supports their worldview. ... Harshman would not support Darwinian evolution if it ... The giraffe evolved to exploit a food source that was out of ... plant species, which is relatively frequent among observed and replicated ...
    (talk.origins)
Loading