Re: free will

On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 11:40:45 -0800 (PST), "nando_ronteltap@xxxxxxxxx"
<nando_ronteltap@xxxxxxxxx> enriched this group when s/he wrote:

Will in New Haven schreef:

Will requires mind. If you assert that trees and rocks and galaxies
have minds, you are a loon. The fact that an object can go in one
direction or another does not imply _choice_ The laws of physics are
what they are.

The fact that an object, be it a human, a plant or a photon, can go
one way or another, absolutely implies choice.

No it does not.

The logic of freedom is
simple, it applies to alternatives, and when an alternative is
realized its called a decision, or choice.

No it does not.

You all have no chance, your position is based on obvious
irrationalities, like that alternatives are not decided. Your common
use of exclamation marks, and other loud forceful ways of expression,
masks your inability to present anything reasonable. Like I said,
freedom explains things, like the efficiency in wear and tear of
chemical machines by freely changing the use, or competitive
relationships where organisms cause themselves to be unpredictable,
etc. etc.

You consistently show that you do not understand what you are talking
about.

So reason is on the side of freedom, where all what you have is saying
it aint so.

Its quite obvious that the majority of scientists could be wrong about
freedom, when one considers the fact that over 90 percent of the most
influential scientists are atheists. It shows that there is some
religious prejudice going on with scientists, which is why they deny
freedom is real.

When you learn what freedom really is you will see how idiotic your
ramblings are.

regards,
Mohammad Nur Syamsu
--
Bob.

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