Re: Cannibal revisited; invitation to Ray Martinez

On Jan 17, 2:57 pm, GCPAXSZJI...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
On 17 jan, 22:13, Ray Martinez <pyramid...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:



On Jan 15, 11:48 pm, GCPAXSZJI...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

On 16 jan, 01:32, Ray Martinez <pyramid...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Jan 12, 7:49 am, hersheyh <hershe...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Jan 11, 8:52 pm, Ray Martinez <pyramid...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Jan 10, 9:27 pm, "[M]adman" <g...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Dragonblaze wrote:
On 9 Jan, 21:04, Ray Martinez <pyramid...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Jan 8, 11:51 pm, "Steven J." <steve...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Jan 8, 8:37 pm, Ray Martinez <pyramid...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

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According to my source, Dr. Gene Scott (Ph.D., Stanford
University): "cana" in old Chaldean means "priest" and "bal"
corresponds to the false O.T. idol deity "Baal." Therefore
"cannibal" means "priests of Baal."

As I understand it, ancient Akkadian (Old Chaldean) had a variety of
words used to describe priests: _en_ or _entu_, _erib biti_ (one
authorized to enter the temple), a host of others rare or
specialized,

Since we know that you have no knowledge in ancient langauges your
understanding needs a source.

But I do have that knowledge, having studied Akkadian, Sumerian and
Biblical Hebrew in a university...

What Steven says here is absolutely correct, there is no such word as
kana/qana/gana in Akkadian or Sumerian that would have the meaning
'priest.' Sumerian kana is the closest to the word I can recognize,
and that means 'trouble, worry, apprehension'.

It would not have the direct "meaning" priest, but it would have the
"connotation" of *priest*

Akkadian word: Kana

The ancient Hebrews, an Akkadian people that settled in Kana'an and
assimilated some Kanaanite groups. They adopted the national name of
ISRAELITES ...

http://www.imninalu.net/peoples.htm

Where it says:

         Kanaanites were the first inhabitants of present-day Israel,
Lebanon and Western Syria. They are known in history as "Phoenicians",
the name given them by Greeks, but they called themselves "Kan'ana".
The term Kanaanites, however, is applied to a group of peoples settled
in that area, but specifically to Phoenicians. Those Kanaanites who
inhabited the land that now is Israel were extinct as an ethnic
identity, because they intermarried with Hebrews and became
Israelites. Their descendants are Jews now.

Kana = Cana Priest

"Priest" is NOT what Kana means by the source you gave. Rather the
term refers to the "people" of 'Kan'ana'.  Do you have a reference
where the name of the people also means "priest"?

You have made a basic error: the source above is not my source.

And I have provided a source which says "cana" means "priest" in old
Chaldean.

Which is alive and well today BTW:

Reflection by newly ordained CANA priest, the Rev'd David Hanke on the CANA
ordinationhttp://www.canaconvocation.org/index.php?option=com_search&searchword...

Even mor ridiculous. That CANA is an acronym for "Convocation of
Anglicans in North America".  Did you actually *read* those sources?

Since I did not post these sources----no. Again, you have made another
basic error.

Of course, Kana = people decended from Kain, or Cain.

Evidence?

The linguisitic similarity is the evidence.

[snip]

Cain in Hebrew is QYN (Qof,Yod,Nun), which,
besides being a name, also is a Hebrew root
meaning spear, which would be the etymology of the
name, or if you insist that the wordplay in Gen 4:1 is
the true etymology, it stems from QNH (Qof,Nun,He).

Canaan in Hebrew is KN`N (Kaph,Nun,`Ayin,Nun),
which appears to come from a root KN`
(Kaph,Nun,`Ayin).

One similar root letter in three is not similarity enough.
No Hebrew scholar would accept that; they would
insist on all three (for three letter roots, the general
case). Exceptions would need a careful explanation.

Regards,

Karel

I have read your unsupported and nonsensical opinions, Karel.

My advice: keep your day job.

Ray

I thought I was replying to someone else, as
you didn't seem to agree to the identification
of the cann(i)- part in cannibal with Canaan.

Which of my "nonsensical opinions" in
particular is in need of support? If you mean
something in the main thread, feel free to
return to the argument you requested, but,
now you have got it, don't seem to want, even
if it has got hardly under way.

That's pretty much standard behavior for Ray. When it comes to any
actual discussion requiring one to provide facts and evidence to
support one's claims, Ray is basically helpless.

I've seen first hand that when faced with a discussion, where he can't
bluster or bluff his way out, he'll start looking for reasons to flee
the discussion. In my case, he did so by making up accusations of
racism, and accusing me of all sorts of underhanded actions.

Everyone saw it for what it was, a total rout, but I suppose it let
Ray imagine that he left on his own terms.

Good luck getting Ray back to discuss the original topic, and I want
to say I admire how you are handling yourself.

DJT




Regards,

Karel

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