Re: more nails in the theory of evolution's coffin



On 8 Jan, 06:11, "[M]adman" <g...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
In the summer of 1969, I was an evolutionist finishing his junior year,
majoring in electrical engineering. Like many other evolutionary scientists,
I feared for the safety of the Apollo XI astronauts who were about to land
on the moon.
I knew that cosmic dust fell on the Earth at a rate of 15 million metric
tons per year. On Earth, that isn't a problem. Most of it lands on the ocean
and just settles to the bottom. The dust that does fall on the land gets
blown (or washed) off rocks and mixed in with the soil. But on the moon,
there is no atmosphere to blow it away, or water to wash it into the sea. I
knew there would be a treacherous 2 billion1 year-old accumulation of dust
more than 50 feet thick.

What would happen when the lunar lander tried to set down on the moon? Would
its large landing pads distribute the weight enough so that it would not
sink down into the dust? Would the rocket exhaust blow the dust away
sideways? or would it bore a deep hole in the dust? Would the dust settle
back down on the landing craft, burying it?

We were all very surprised when there turned out to be just a small fraction
of an inch of dust on the moon. How could that be?

We were all very much relieved when new research showed that the cosmic dust
measurement we had accepted as undeniable fact was simply off by a factor of
about 70,000% (:-). We were glad to know that the new undeniable fact was
that dust accumulates at a rate of 22,000 tons of dust per year. This new
measurement predicted (after the fact) a layer of dust about ¾ inch on the
moon after 2 billion years, which was remarkably close to what was actually
measured.

It might seem that all is well in Evolution Land, now that the moon dust
problem has been solved-but all isn't well. The greatly decreased cosmic
dust measurement is a sword that cuts both ways. According to one
evolutionist,

  "My copy of Everyman's Astronomy indicates that the earth collects about
9000 kg per day from meteors of visual magnitude 5.0 or brighter. Assuming a
typical rock density of 3 g/cc, this corresponds to an accumulation rate of
one inch per 10 billion years. Unfortunately no data is presented for
fainter meteors. I wouldn't be surprised to find that the actual rate is one
or two orders of magnitude higher."2
OK. Let's assume that the rate is two orders of magnitude higher. In other
words, 900,000 kg per day, or 100 inches per 10 billion years. The Earth was
supposedly formed in a 10 billion year period following the big bang by the
accumulation of cosmic dust attracted by gravity. 900,000 kg per day for 10
billion years is roughly 3 x 1021 grams. At 3 g/cc this is 1021 cc. There
are 1015 cubic centimeters per cubic kilometer, so the volume of dust
collected in 10 billion years is about 106 cubic kilometers. This is the
volume of a sphere with a 62 kilometer (about 39 miles) radius, which is
considerably smaller than the 2,000 mile radius of the Earth. The dust
accumulation would have to be about 8,000 times 900,000 kg / day for 10
billion years to create a planet the size of Earth.
So, the evolutionist is caught in a three-way stretch. He needs rapid dust
accumulation for creation of the planets, slow accumulation for a relatively
dust-free moon, and constant accumulation to satisfy the uniform rate
assumption he uses.

I don't know how much cosmic dust falls on the Earth or moon. But I do know
that I haven't seen a set of numbers that satisfy all the conflicting
criteria. Nor do I see a way that one could construct a satisfactory set of
numbers. A low value will explain the dust on the moon, but not the
formation of the Earth. A high value will explain the formation of the
Earth, but not the small amount of dust on the Moon. A medium value won't
explain anything.

The theory of evolution would not have this problem to deal with if we
hadn't gone to the Moon and found that the predicted layer of dust wasn't
there. The space program is discovering new problems for evolution almost
daily. The more we learn, the more things we find wrong with the theory of
evolution. The current interest in Mars, although based on irresponsible
speculation, will no doubt drive more nails in the theory of evolution's
coffin.

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Ye gods and little fishes, the Moon dust argument surfaces again in a
new guise.
Even AIG know it's crap in all its manifestations.
BTW, moron, the Earth was not formed over 10 billion years. It was
formed around 4.55 billion years ago with the rest of the solar
system.
GIGO.

Wombat

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