Re: Evolution vs Abiogenesis

On Dec 16, 5:14 pm, spintronic <spintro...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Dec 16, 10:38 pm, wf3h <w...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


no one knows what 'defining' an atom is. i have an MS in chemical
physics and have never heard the term

You don't know how to say
"this is a "lead" atom"?
Or
 "This is a "Hydrogen" atom?
Forgive my skeptesism of your MS. Although you may "have" MS.

actually i have tourette's but that's a different matter.

i see you're playing word games. saying 'this is a hydrogen atom' says
zip about its origins.

so tell me again why i need to know hydrogen's origin to make water.


however, you have a larger problem...if that's possible. FIRST you
said we have to know the ORIGIN of atoms. now you're playing word
games and saying we have to 'define' (sic) them.

We know both. Their origin & definitions.

and at one time we didn't know the origin of hydrogen....you're losing
it here...


You know neither for abiogenesis.

until the 1940's we didnt know where hydrogen came from. so before
that we couldn't do chemistry?

is that your argument?


that's called 'goalpost shifting' and it's a time honored creationist
ploy

Ah, like the "change a date" game you play with radiodating.

goalpost shifting...again.

jesus...at least i have tourette's. what the HELL is your excuse for
drifting off topic like a drunken sailor?


saying it's no. 1 in the periodic table does not tell us its origin at
all. H existed before the periodic table.  so your statement is
meaningless

Protons are formed in multiple nuclear reactions involving the
exchange of energy.

gee. and where do protons come from? well i guess hydrogen doesn't
exist because we don't know the origin of protons....

in addition, protons aren't 'formed by nuclear reactions'. and where
did the strong nuclear force come from? if we don't know that, protons
dont exist...

your argument!

a

Yes, we do know the origin of H+.

H+ is not hydrogen.


Yes, we can "define" H+.

which is not the origin of H+

No, You cannot do the same for abiogenesis,

irrelevant. you just proved protons don't exist since we dont know the
origin of nuclear forces

Yes, you are boring.
Yes, you are stupid.

that may be true. but i'm not a creationist....which means my IQ is at
least double digits. your IQ can be counted on your left hand with 1
finger left over.

because i just defined the ORIGIN of bacteria...according to your
terms.

No, you tried to define "Bacteria", and got it wrong.

You made no mention of origin.

gee. what a surprise neither did you.


My brightness pails into comparison with such a bright light as;

Well. Not you.

your brightness pales when compared to pippin. and he's my dog.

Does he teach you biology?-

yeah. he's not a creationist either which means his IQ is higher than
yours

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