Re: Artefactual vs. Natural DNA

On Nov 17, 11:57 am, wf3h <w...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Nov 17, 2:50 pm, Seanpit <seanpitnos...@naturalselection.



0catch.com> wrote:
On Nov 17, 10:08 am, wf3h <w...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Nov 17, 11:46 am, Seanpit <sean...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Nov 16, 7:35 pm, heekster <heeks...@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

SETI claims no such imbecility.

SETI does indeed claim that all narrow-band radio signals are clearly
the result of deliberate intelligent design.

heekster is right andseanis wrong. natural narrow band radio signals
are quite common and the mechanism of their formation is well know.
they are called hyrdogen masers and were discovered shortly after
charles townes invented the laser.

Sounds very similar to my polished granite cube argument - doesn't
it?  Finding a polished granite cube on a planet in a neighboring
solar system, would, according to Shostak, be clear evidence of a
deliberate artifact.

But, Bob argues that narrow band lazers are produced by non-deliberate
methods. While interesting, this isn't the "context" Shostak is
talking about.  And, additional elements, mentioned by Shostak, would
overcome even this context issue.

i leftsean'soriginal argument above. nowhere does he mention
'context' at all. his assertion was that:

SETI does indeed claim that all narrow-band radio signals are clearly
the result of deliberate intelligent design.

and this is clearly wrong.

The point is the same - SETI scientists feel they can, given the
proper context, identify narrow-band radio signals as artifactual and
that they can identify certain types of patterns in radio signals as
artifactual regardless of context - such as a pattern of Pi or the
first fifty numbers in the Fibonacci series repeated over and over
again or a large polished highly symmetrical granite cube with
geometric etchings carved into the center of each face of the cube
that match on opposing sides.

Sean Pitman
www.DetectingDesign.com

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