Re: Humans can't produce informationally complex DNA?

On Nov 14, 9:25 pm, Seanpit <sean...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Nov 14, 6:44 am, wf3h <w...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:



On Nov 13, 8:47 pm, John Harshman <jharshman.diespam...@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Seanpit wrote:
On Nov 13, 3:01 pm, wf3h <w...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Nov 13, 4:25 pm, Seanpit <sean...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

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However, I do know that at least human-level intelligence is able to
produce high-level information in DNA using intelligence-driven
mechanisms.  Therefore, using the same logic of SETI, I conclude that
high-level information, if found in DNA, is most likely the result of
at least human-level intelligence.
SETI is not chemistry. SETI has a mechanism. we know how to modify
radio waves

We know how to create and modify DNA as well.

we do NOT know how to formulate DNA so that complexity is formed.

You're quite mistaken.  Ask anyone, even in this forum, to back you up
on this assertion of yours.

I sure wouldn't know how to do it, unless you can present an operational
definition of DNA complexity. How do I distinguish complex DNA from
simple DNA?-

simple. if it supports 'god did it'  and can not be lab tested, it's
complex. what else  you need to know?

Rather, if it's function requires a minimum size and sequence
specificity, it's complex.  That's my definition of functional
complexity.  There are different levels of functional complexity, of
course.  The greater the minimum size and/or specificity requirements,
the greater the functional complexity.

Humans can now produce pretty high levels of functional complexity in
biosystems - well beyond the 1000aa threshold level.

So, obviously, can bacteria and even viruses. Much more efficiently,
in fact. They can even modify those systems on a population basis
over a series of generations so as to become resistant to toxins. And
they do it without a high tech biolab.

Sean Pitmanwww.DetectingDesign.com

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