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On Oct 14, 9:37 am, "Suzanne" <shil...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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Is there any reason to think that we need to trust another
person on
the question of deities, and if so, is there a reason to
think we
should trust you (or any theist) as opposed to Richard
Dawkins, or
some other atheist?

Chris

I presume you are speaking of my belief in Christ to
be the Savior?...
I think there is a good reason why you should trust
what I've been telling you that I believe. . In the first
place, I've been telling you the truth. If you put your
trust in what I've placed my trust in, and then found
out later that it was not true (which you won't), you
would have lost nothing at all. But if you put your
trust in what people who oppose my beliefs say that
they believe, and find out later that they were wrong,
you would have lost much.
So in essence, I should trust you because you say so.

Not exactly. Something should take place
within you when someone speaks to you about salvation.
The Holy Spirit has a compelling way of working in a
person's innermost being and the person knows he is being
called by the Lord to himself, and that he wants you to trust
him. At least that was my experience.

And is it just a coincidence that the Holy Spirit usually calls
people
to the same religion of their parents and peers?
And anyway, if the Holy Spirit can brainwash you into accepting a
religion, isn't that a violation of your free will?

And here I was hoping God had faxed you some explicit
instructions...You know, combine 'A' with 'B' and 'C', mix at
high
temperatures for 2 hours then give it a cold break, and voila! A
cure
for HIV. Now THAT would be deserving of worship, perhaps.

: ) Sometimes he does give explicit instructions as to
what to say to someone. Usually he will place the thoughts
in a person's heart to know what to say to a person about
him, when he wants me to do that.

Then he doesn't appear to be doing a great job, for an omniscient
being.

Can you tell him to place in your heart the time, specified to the
second, when it will start raining where I currently am?

From Suzanne:
I don't think that telling someone that has died for you
that you want them to jump through one more hoop
is appropriate.

What happened to normal quoting?

I don't know what you are meaning.

Liar!


But, of course, you have no evidence that God ever did any such
thing.
You are finding excuses for the total lack of evidence for God, not
actually telling us anything real.

Yes, I have evidence. It's called the Bible

That is NOT evidence.

and it was written
by the followers of Jesus, upon whom Jesus requested that
people would be sanctified by their testimonies, which is
what the New Testament is.

You do love your circular reasoning.

The followers of JC wrote about him so he must have existed to have
had followers.

fiction
n noun
1 prose literature, especially novels, describing imaginary
events and people.
2 a thing that is invented or untrue. Øa false belief or
statement, accepted as true because it is expedient to do so.

DERIVATIVES
fictional adjective
fictionality noun
fictionalization or fictionalisation noun
fictionalize or fictionalise verb
fictionally adverb
fictionist noun

ORIGIN
Middle English: via Old French from Latin fictio(n-), from
fingere 'form, contrive'; cf. feign and figment.

Suzanne
--
Bob.

.



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