Re: Six Simple And Reasonable Questions ...



Seanpit wrote:
On Oct 2, 9:15 pm, Boikat <boi...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Oct 2, 6:06 pm, Seanpit <sean...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

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Why would God use radio waves to communicate?

Why would any intelligent agent use radiowaves to communicate?

Like looking for the lost keys under the streetlight, we can only
"see" what us humans can clearly identify as being due to an agent
with our level of intelligence and technology and similar biology. If
the Xordaxians communicate by visual signals or use other ranges of
the electromagnetic spectrum than radio waves or by ESP, we will not
detect them. Nor will we detect them if they transmit "information"
in a different time frame, say by one letter each year. Nor if their
'language' is so complex that it never repeats or if they don't bother
to transmit the simple, but not too simple, signals (like the first
10-20 prime numbers) that we would clearly recognize.

This
isn't about putting a label on the required intelligence. It is about
detecting the fact that intelligent design of a very high level was in
fact required to produce a particular phenomenon.

As it is in all *human-manufactured* objects and processes. But an
entirely different mechanism of manufacture is involved in
'manufacturing' living organisms, from simple bacteria to man
himself. And that mechanism is f**king good one for generating
variation and differential reproduction.
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Imperfect replication mediated through passive selective filters.

This Darwinian mechanism is demonstrably limited in creative potential
to the very lowest levels of functional complexity. It has not and
statistically cannot produce anything that requires a minimum of more
than a few hundred fairly specified amino acid residues working
together at the same time. That's a demonstrable fact.

http://www.detectingdesign.com/flagellum.html#Calculation

Are you still claiming that that completely bogus calculation has some
meaning? That bogus calculation is nothing but a more cryptic
formulation of the idea that proteins must assemble from scratch by a
completely random process. The utter dishonesty involved in
continuing to push that calculation as relevant shows an appalling
level of either ethical behavior or a lack of sufficient intelligence
to understand that calculation.

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If SETI scientists found the type of radiosignal they are looking for,
they would certainly say that ET had been discovered. This would by
no means end the need for science since all scientific theories,
however verified and useful, required continual testing and
evaluation.

And if ID were ever to find the type of genome that they need to find,
one that only a God could produce, they might have something
relevant. But all they (and you) can find are genomes that they
*assert* are too complex. I don't know how one can distinguish
between a sequence that only a God could produce and one for which we
don't currently know the mechanism. Do you? The fact, however, is
that rarely, if ever, can do even that. Typically they assert too
much complexity by completely ignoring *actual* possible sources and,
like you, generating bogus numerology involving a non-evolutionary
mechanism of random assembly and hand-waving *average* 'gap sizes'.

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[snip]

Actually, it takes more brains to reasonably believe in ID than to
believe that some unknown random force of non-deliberate nature did
the job.

Do you understand the meaning of the word "selection"? How does that
definition square with your idea that evolution is only a "random
force"?

That's blind faith my friend - - nothing very sophisticated
or difficult about that.

I agree that your blind and ignorant religious faith is what fuels
your dishonest numerology (which only invalidates a strawman version
of evolution).

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