Re: Harun Yahya offers prize for fossil proof of evolution

On Sep 29, 2:17 pm, Muhterem <bb...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Sep 28, 7:37 pm, r norman <r_s_norman@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:



On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 19:23:21 -0400, Jason Spaceman

<notrea...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From the article:
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By Toby Green
Monday, 29 September 2008

A controversial creationist who successfully campaigned for Richard
Dawkins' official website to be banned in Turkey has offered a
multitrillion- pound challenge to scientists.

Adnan Oktar said that he has "issued a call to all evolutionists" that
he will give "10 trillion Turkish lira to anyone who produces a single
intermediate-form fossil demonstrating evolution" - a sum roughly
equal to £4.4trn.

The Muslim writer, who uses the pen name Harun Yahya, is a fierce
critic of what he calls "the Darwinist dictatorship" and a popular
figure in his home country, where - according to a 2006 survey - only
a quarter of the population believe in Darwin's theory.

The 52-year-old former architecture student, who has been heavily
criticised in the West, claims there are no fossils to support
Darwinist theories. "Evolutionists are at a dead-end in the face of
the fossil record," he said. "Not one [fossil] belongs to
strange-looking creatures in the course of development of the kind
supposed by evolutionists." However, scientists reject his claims that
these fossils do not exist. Dr Kevin Padian at the University of
California told The New York Times that Mr Oktar "does not have any
sense of what we know about how things change through time. If he sees
a fossil crab, he says, 'It looks just like a regular crab, there's no
evolution,'" Dr Padian said. "Extinction does not seem to bother him."
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Read it at
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/creationist-offers-prize-fo....
orhttp://tinyurl.com/4j3og7

The official name for the Turkish currency is YTL, for "New Turkish
Lire" (Yeni Türk Lirasi). I strongly suspect that this offer is in
terms of old Turkish Lire, one million times less. It still is a
multimillion dollar prize. I also strongly suspect that Oktar
(Harun Yahya) will easily reject any and all fossils as not being
truly "intermediate".

Yes You are right. This is not from rejection of any proof of
evolution, but because of no evidence for evolution since the
scientific fossil records was wrote. The scientist have found more
than one hundred million fossils and recorded them. but there is not
any fossil which support evolution scientificly.

Can you explain why these fossils do not support evolution
scientifically?

STS 5
Mrs. Ples
Species: Australopithecus africanus
Age: 2.6 million years
Brain Size: 485cc
http://anthropology.si.edu/humanorigins/ha/sts5.html

STS 71
Species: Australopithecus africanus
Age: 2.5 million years
Brain Size: 428cc
http://anthropology.si.edu/humanorigins/ha/sts71.html

KNM ER 1813
Species: Homo habilis
Age: 1.9 million years
Brain Size: 510cc
http://anthropology.si.edu/humanorigins/ha/ER1813.html

KNM ER 1470
Species: Homo rudolfensis
Age: 1.8 million years
Brain Size: 775cc
http://anthropology.si.edu/humanorigins/ha/er1470.html

KNM ER 3733
Species: Homo ergaster
Age: 1.75 million years
Brain Size: 850 cc
http://anthropology.si.edu/humanorigins/ha/ER3733.html

KNM WT 15000
"The Turkana Boy"
Species: Homo ergaster
Age: 1.6 million years
Brain Size: 880cc/910cc
http://anthropology.si.edu/humanorigins/ha/WT15k.html
[A link to a rotatable skull is at the bottom of the page]

Peking Man
Species: Homo erectus
Age: 500-230 thousand years
Brain Size: 1043cc (average of 5 skulls)
http://anthropology.si.edu/humanorigins/ha/weid.html

"Rhodesian Man"
Species: Homo heidelbergensis
Age: 300-125 thousand years
Brain Size: 1300 cc
http://anthropology.si.edu/humanorigins/ha/brokenhill.htm

Skhul V
Species: Homo sapiens
Age: ~90,000 years
Brain Size: modern (~1350cc)
http://anthropology.si.edu/humanorigins/ha/skhul.html

Cro-Magnon 1
Species: Homo sapiens
Age: ~30,000 years
Brain Size: modern (~1350cc)
http://anthropology.si.edu/humanorigins/ha/cromagnon.html

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