Re: Re: Atheists support evolution because evolution supports their worldview



On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 22:18:54 -0500, "Suzanne" <shiloh7@xxxxxxxxx>
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On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 17:33:25 -0500, "Suzanne" <shiloh7@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Nothing in the creation account is explainable by the evidence.

I can think of several things. Here's one of them. You surely
know that at one time the earth was of one continent. We
call that Pangaea. It then became divided into Laurasia and
Gondwanaland. Then those further divided until we had the
continents that we have now. The creation account says that
when God created the earth it was "without form and void."
Well...it turns out that before there was a Pangaea, there was
yet another configuration of the continents and that was that
they were scattered around the globe horizontally.

How that possibly translates into "without form and void" escapes me.
Can you elaborate?

We know geologically that the land may have been in
several configurations before it was Pangaea, maybe
even, as the theory goes, there were other configurations
and other single or few landmasses before they were
broken up, but because of certain kinds of rock, we
know that at one time it may have been molten and
solidifying and becoming solid. From our viewpoint
of the creation, it didn't have plant life in the beginning,
and it was not yet organized into what God wanted it
to be. I'm saying that it was in a raw and yet unused
state. It was not formed into the continents that God
wanted it to be formed into yet, until he spoke the
words.

Must have been talking for several billion years then.

Next, according to the creation account you will see that
"light" is created before the constellations, the sun, the moon,
and the stars. This earlier light corresponds with whole
electromagnetic spectrum of light,

Light is one part of the electromagnetic spectrum.

The radiations are light.

No. Light is a radiation, only a small part of the electromagnetic
spectrum.

All that are in the EMR Spectrum are
light,

No.

but light is divided into visible light, and invisible light.

No.

We also refer to the visible light as just light. Technically
speaking though, it's all the same energy but at different
wavelengths. You can say that light is a part of the
electromagnetic radiation spectrum and be right if you mean
visible light, but you can also say that even invisible light is
technically called light.

No.

and that is created before
the other kinds of lights in the sky. This light (EMR) is created
on an earlier day than the sun and moon were created.

Where does it come from? Are you saying that the effect precedes the
cause? Light doesn't just exist without a source, even by divine fiat;
it has to come from somewhere

The Bible says that God said, "Let there be light, and there was
light." It says also that was the first day. But it says in the creation
account that the stars, the sun, the moon were created a few days
later.

Daft isn't it :)

So the first light that was created was not the heavenly
bodies. It would be photons, particles that become electrically
charged.

Photons do not carry a charge.

That can be another thread. "Where do photons come
from?" - it would get into quantum physics.

Which would be another subject you could not understand.

The
sentence saying there were lights in the heavens that were
produced that were for times and seasons, days and years, are
likely the constellations. Next mentioned are the sun, the moon,
and the stars.

Good grief! What do you think "constellations" consist of? Hint:
"ST_RS". Would you like to buy a vowel? (Advanced hint: the Sun is a
st_r too).

It's just a simple way of saying that God concentrated on the
stars that would form the Zodiac's constellations, which he
calls the Mazzaroth. He also made the other stars as well. He
still is making stars, as a matter of fact. Now, we know that
there are many constellations in the sky, but there are only
certain ones that ring the earth in the direction that it is
turning, and the ancients and the moderns notice them easily.

Different people see different constellations, and as they are not
fixed we see star patterns differently than our ancestors did.

Since they are so far away, they have remained remarably the
same shapes more or less for many thousands of years. The
order is not stressed, it just is that the ones used for seasons,
days, years, signs are mentioned first, so I was mentioning them
in the order they are in. They were all created anyway on the
4th day of creation.

Dimwit!

Suzanne
--
Bob.

.



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