Re: Is there a top 100 design flaws website?



Garamond Lethe <cartographical@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:52:47 +1000, John Wilkins wrote:

Garamond Lethe <cartographical@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 01:55:24 +0000, William Morse wrote:

spintronic wrote:

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My challenge to you.

You pick, (anything, any subject artifact, or entity that you like)
that you as an
"intellectual" blieve to be "perfect".

Since the argument from evolution doesn't hold out perfection as a
likely achievement, why do you think this is reasonable? The argument
from evolution is that one expects design flaws. Now I could posit
stuff that would be closer to perfection if it existed, such as a
human being that never got cancer and lived forever.


Surely It can't be that hard.

And it wasn't that hard.

You can even pick your mum.

My mum has Alzheimer's (actually a close equivalent). There's an
example of good design for you.


When you do. I will find 10 design flaws.

Just for drill, tell me ten design flaws in a modern stainless steel
fork. At least the discussion might get to particulars.


1. No side-mounted machine guns.
2. Inferior cloaking technology.
3. Performance in microwave isn't *that* exciting. 4. Largely
inedible.
5. Nonexistent documentation.
6. Not an approved flotation device. 7. Lacking as a conversation
partner. 8. Not particularly handy for calculating alternative minimum
tax. 9. Frankly useless for competitive tennis. 10. Still no major
motion picture.

You forgot: Lacks an ISO specification.

Certainly not.

ISO 5832-1:2007
Implants for surgery
Metallic materials
Part 1: Wrought stainless steel

Just exactly where *do* you stick your fork? Remind me never to eat a
meal next to you.
--
John S. Wilkins, Philosophy, University of Queensland
scienceblogs.com/evolvingthoughts
But al be that he was a philosophre,
Yet hadde he but litel gold in cofre

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