Re: Darwin crash?

Ray Martinez wrote:
On Aug 19, 4:30 pm, John Harshman <jharshman.diespam...@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
There appears to have been a period of several (?) hours today when
nothing was posted to TO, including a couple things I sent. Is
everything posted during that period gone forever, or would we expect it
to show up eventually?

"Well, if you'd just get yourself a newsreader this wouldn't happen."
That's what computer nerd has always told me.

Obviously I am correct: when the Group is down, for whatever reason,
messages do not post on the Internet. Just because some might show up
on your private newsreader circuit does not mean that they are seen on
the Internet.

You have no idea what the Internet is. Here's a hint: neither Google nor the World Wide Web are the Internet. There a number of different applications that the Internet is used for, and two of these are the Web (using primarily the HTTP protocol) and Usenet (using the NNTP protocol).

So, it is incorrect to say that "when the group is down, ... messages do not post on the Internet." Instead, it would be true to say that when the talk.origins server is down, messages do not post on the server. However, if a genuine newsreader can display posts, then they are *by definition* available on the Internet.

You seem to think that newsreaders are somewhat evil. How do you think Google is able to display posts from this newsgroup? Here's a hint: it's communicating with the talk.origins server in precisely the same way that a newsreader does.

There is no such thing as a "private newsreader circuit." Newsreaders operate across the Internet, which is public.

I am vindicated by this present incident of down time: no messages
posted, from Google Groups or newsreader.

Computer nerd can say anything but reality says the public cannot read
messages when the Group is down via Google whether its Google's fault
or not.

Ummm... no. When Google is down, only those people reading and posting through Google are affected. Everyone else is still able to read and post. When the talk.origins server is down, everyone is affected.

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  • Re: Ray M abandoning t.o., moving to PT?
    ... without the obligatory private newsreader circuit. ... Google is probably too busy fighting the ... messages do not post on the Internet. ... So HTTP is not the internet, and the internet is not HTTP. ...
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