Re: Flank fails to offer a single quote from any creationist

On Aug 17, 5:42 pm, T Pagano <not.va...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

  Notice here that Flank fails to produce a
single quote from any creationists which demonstrates that the
majority of creationists use the Bible as a Science Text.


Once more, Tony, just for you -- just because I like you.


*ahem*


"Bible-believing students of the biological sciences possess a guide
for their interpretation of the available data, the Biblical record
of
Divine Creation contained in Genesis." --Robert Kofahl and Kelly
Segraves (Kofahl and Segraves, 1975, p. 69)


"The Christian student of origins approaches the evidence from
geology
and paleontology with the Biblical record in mind, interpreting that
evidence in accord with the facts divinely revealed in the Bible" --
Robert Kofahl and Kelly Segraves (Kofahl and Segraves, 1975, p. 40)


"Creation science begins with wholly Biblical presuppositions and
interprets data from all of reality, including science, within that
framework." --Donald Chittick (Rohr, 1988, p. 156)


"If the Bible is the Word of God--and it is--and if Jesus Christ is
the infallible and omniscient Creator--and He is--then it must be
firmly believed that the world and all things in it were created in
six natural days and that the long geological ages of evolutionary
history never really took place at all." -- Henry Morris (Morris,
Scientific Creationism, 1974, 251)


"It is precisely because Biblical revelation is absolutely
authoritative and perspicuous that the scientific facts, rightly
interpreted, will give the same testimony as that of Scripture." --
Henry Morris (Morris, Scientific Creationism, 1974, p. 15)


"It is more productive to take the Bible literally and then to
interpret the actual facts of science within its revelatory
framework."--Henry Morris (Morris, Troubled Waters of Evolution,
1974,
p. 184)


"While as scientists creationists must study as objectively as
possible the actual data of geology, as Bible-believing Christians,
we
must also insist that those be correlated within the framework of
Biblical revelation." --Henry Morris (Morris, Creation Research
Society Quarterly, December 1974, p. 173, cited in Plaintiff's Pre-
Trial Brief, McLean v Arkansas, 1981)


"We are completely limited to what God has seen fit to tell us, and
this information is His written Word. This is our textbook on the
science of Creation." -- Henry Morris (Morris, 1966, p. 114)


"The instructed Christian knows that the evidences for full divine
inspiration of Scripture are far weightier than the evidences for any
fact of science. When confronted with the consistent Biblical
testimony to a universal Flood, the believer must certainly accept is
as unquestioningly true." -- John Whitcomb and Henry Morris (Whitcomb
and Morris, 1961, p. 118)


"The final and conclusive evidence against evolution is the fact that
the Bible denies it. The Bible is the Word of God, absolutely
inerrant
and verbally inspired." --Henry Morris (Morris, 1967, p. 55)


"We believe that the Bible, as the verbally inspired and completely
inerrant Word of God, gives us the true framework of historical and
scientific interpretation . . . We take this revealed framework of
history as our basic dictum, and then try to see how all the
pertinent
data can be understood in this context." --John Whitcomb and Henry
Morris (Whitcomb and Morris, 1961, p. xxvi)


"Even though we emphasize the scientific aspects of creationism--
especially in our debates and campus seminars--we also stress the
fact
that all true science supports Biblical creationism as well . . . We
believe that God's inerrant word must always prevail over the
historical speculations of what the Bible calls 'science falsely so
called'." --Henry Morris (Morris, Back to Genesis, October 1995)


"The only Bible-believing conclusion is, of course, that Genesis 1-
11
is the actual historical truth, regardless of any scientific or
chronological problems thereby entailed." --Henry Morris, (Morris
1972, p. 82)


"We are convinced that in order to defeat materialism, we must cut it
off at its source. That source is scientific materialism. This is
precisely our strategy. If we view the predominant materialistic
science as a giant tree, our strategy is intended to function as a
"wedge" that, while relatively small, can split the trunk when
applied
at its weakest points. The very beginning of this strategy, the "thin
edge of the wedge," was Phillip Johnson's critique of Darwinism begun
in 1991 in Darwinism on Trial, and continued in Reason in the Balance
and Defeatng Darwinism by Opening Minds. Michael Behe's highly
successful Darwin's Black Box followed Johnson's work. We are
building
on this momentum, broadening the wedge with a positive scientific
alternative to materialistic scientific theories, which has come to
be
called the theory of intelligent design (ID). Design theory promises
to reverse the stifling dominance of the materialist worldview, and
to
replace it with a science consonant with Christian and theistic
convictions." (Wedge Document, 1999)


"Governing Goals: To replace materialistic explanations with the
theistic understanding that nature and human beings are created by
God." (Wedge Document, 1999)


"Not only does intelligent design rid us of this ideology, which
suffocates the human spirit, but, in my personal experience, I've
found that it opens the path for people to come to Christ. Indeed,
once materialism is no longer an option, Christianity again becomes
an
option. True, there are then also other options. But Christianity is
more than able to hold its own once it is seen as a live option. The
problem with materialism is that it rules out Christianity so
completely that it is not even a live option. Thus, in its relation
to
Christianity, intelligent design should be viewed as a ground-
clearing
operation that gets rid of the intellectual rubbish that for
generations has kept Christianity from receiving serious
consideration." (Dembski, "Intelligent Design's Contribution to the
Debate Over Evolution", Designinference.com website, February 2005).


"The conceptual soundings of the theory can in the end only be
located
in Christ." (Dembski, 1999, p. 210).


"The fine-tuning of the universe, about which cosmologists make such
a
to-do, is both complex and specified and readily yields design. So
too, Michael Behe's irreducibly complex biochemical systems readily
yield design. The complexity-specification criterion demonstrates
that
design pervades cosmology and biology. Moreover, it is a transcendent
design, not reducible to the physical world. Indeed, no intelligent
agent who is strictly physical could have presided over the origin of
the universe or the origin of life." (Dembski, "The Act of Creation",
ARN website, Aug 1998)


"From our vantage, materialism is not a neutral, value-free,
minimalist position from which to pursue inquiry. Rather, it is
itself
an ideology with an agenda. What's more, it requires an evolutionary
creation story to keep it afloat. On scientific grounds, we regard
that creation story to be false. What's more, we regard the
ideological agenda that has flowed from it to be destructive to
rational discourse. Our concerns are therefore entirely parallel to
the evolutionists'. Indeed, all the evolutionists' worst fears about
what the world would be like if we succeed have, in our view, already
been realized through the success of materialism and evolution.
Hence,
as a strategy for unseating materialism and evolution, the term
"Wedge" has come to denote an intellectual and cultural movement that
many find congenial." (Dembski, "Dealing with the backlash against
intelligent design", 2004) "


"But there are deeper motivations. I think at a fundamental level, in
terms of what drives me in this is that I think God's glory is being
robbed by these naturalistic approaches to biological evolution,
creation, the origin of the world, the origin of biological
complexity
and diversity. When you are attributing the wonders of nature to
these
mindless material mechanisms, God's glory is getting robbed...And so
there is a cultural war here. Ultimately I want to see God get the
credit for what he's done - and he's not getting it." (Dembski,
address given at Fellowship Baptist Church, Waco, Texas, March 7,
2004)


"Even so, there is an immediate payoff to intelligent design: it
destroys the atheistic legacy of Darwinian evolution. Intelligent
design makes it impossible to be an intellectually fulfilled
atheist." (Dembski, Why President Bush Got It Right about Intelligent
Design, 2005)


"Darwinism is the most plausible unintelligent mechanism, yet it has
tremendous difficulties and the evidence garnered so far points to
its
inability to do what its advocates claim for it. If unintelligent
mechanisms can't do the job, then that shifts the focus to
intelligent
agency. That's as far as the argument against Darwinism takes us, but
most people already have other reasons for believing in a personal
God
who just might act in history, and they will find the argument for
intelligent design fits with what they already hold. With the
argument
arranged this way, evidence against Darwinism does count as evidence
for an active God, just as valid negative advertising against the
Democratic candidate will help the Republican, even though Vegetarian
and One-World candidates are on the ballot, too. Life is either the
result of exclusively unintelligent causes or it is not, and the
evidence against the unintelligent production of life is clearly
evidence for intelligent design." (Behe, "The God of Science", Weekly
Standard, June 7, 1999, p. 35)


"Naturalism is a philosophy which says that material things are all
that there is. But philosophy is not science, and therefore excluding
ideas which point to a creator, which point to God, is not allowed
simply because in public schools in the United States one is not
allowed to discriminate either for or against ideas which have
religious implications." (Behe, Speech at Calvary Chapel, March 6,
2002)


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Lenny Flank
"There are no loose threads in the web of life"

Editor, Red and Black Publishers
http://www.RedAndBlackPublishers.com


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