Re: Genius of Charles Darwin

On Aug 10, 8:49 pm, conrad <con...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Aug 10, 9:06 am, Ron O <rokim...@xxxxxxx> wrote:

On Aug 9, 9:34 pm, metspitzer <kilow...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=Genius%20of%20Charles%20Darwin&;...

Did anyone else find the atheistic preaching to be unwarrented and a
distraction to the whole piece?  I would have left the students
religious beliefs in, but linking science with atheism is more stupid
propaganda than science.  It is also a mistake in my opinion.

What about Dawkin's quote mining Darwin at the end.  Pretty sad that
he had to remove one line from the quote to suit his purpose.  Don't
we expect that from the creationist side and not the science side?

Ron Okimoto

Are you referring to the "endless forms most beautiful" quote?
Additionally, are you referring to earlier copies of the book
which contained references to "creator"?

If so, perhaps Dawkins was reading from a copy that
had such references removed.

Seehttp://www.csuchico.edu/~curbanowicz/DarwinDayCollectionOneChapter.html

The remark by gardern is interesting:
"Darwin himself, as a young biologist aboard H.M.S. Beagle, was
so thoroughly orthodox that the ship's officers laughed at his
propensity
for quoting Scripture. Then 'disbelief crept over me at a very slow
rate,' he
recalled, 'but was at last complete. The rate was so slow that I felt
no
distress.' The phrase 'by the creator,' in the final sentence of the
selection
chosen here, did not appear in the first edition of Origin of Species.
It was
added to the second edition to conciliate angry clerics. Darwin later
wrote,
'I have long since regretted that I truckled to public opinion and
used the
Pentateuchal term of creation, by which I really meant 'appeared' by
some
wholly unknown process." [stress added] (Gardner, 1984)

Therefore, I think that including any references to "creator"
undermines the spirit of Darwin.

--
conrad

Well if the line isn't in the first edition then I was wrong about
Dawkin's quote mining. Dawkin's claimed to have a rare copy of the
first edition. One of only around 1200 printed.

I just have the "mentor" edition that was reprinted in 1958. They
mention 6 editions of the Origin, and I don't know which one they
reprinted.

Ron Okimoto

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