Re: Need some ID/anthropic help here

"On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 10:51:17 -0700, in article
<8s6dnd6agsVhDAXVnZ2dnUVZ_oTinZ2d@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, VBM stated..."
[...snip...]
I agree, but I will add that the ID scientists in general have no problem
with natural selection or the entire process having happened. They just
point to things that they believe argue it could not have happened entirely
naturally, but needed little tweaks or boosts here or there.

Of course, under the "big tent" policy, ID officially has no
problem with anything except that something, somewhere, somehow
is wrong with evolutionary biology. They can accommodate a minor
disagreement over just a few orders of magnitude in the age of
life (that is, a factor of a million times, thousands vs. billions
of years).

That they have no substantive, positive alternative, but only
want to stop scientific investigation into certain areas -
that is precisely what is wrong with ID. Well, that, and also
that they only want to promote ID to an audience of politicians
and schoolchildren, rather than discuss it in an appropriate
forum.

If there were something substantive and positive that they
had to offer, if they had any interest in offering a "theory
of ID", if they had any suggestions for a research program, if
they offered any idea about how to decide between common descent
and independent creation, ...

If they would be concerned to tell us *What* is "intelligently
designed" (or what could be, or what is/could *not* be) - what
sort of thing (like individuals, or organs, or "kinds", or
entire ecosystems, or molecules, or space-time, or laws of
nature, or processes, or souls, or ... ) ...

Or *When* does/did "intelligent design" place - thousands of
years ago, billions of years ago, or still happening ...




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---Tom S.
"As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand."
attributed to Josh Billings

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