Re: Re: Some Questions for Global Flood Believers
- From: Ye Old One <usenet@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 07:16:38 GMT
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:40:34 -0700 (PDT), JM <JM20000000@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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On Jul 22, 2:16 pm, "Dana Tweedy" <reddfr...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
"JM" <JM20000...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Jul 22, 7:32 am, "Devil's Advocaat" <mankyg...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
If all the sedimentary rock layers were deposited by a single
catastrophic global flood, as some people think, why do many of these
layers exhibit ...
1) ... graded bedding?
2) ... mud cracks?
3) ... raindrop marks?
4) ... cross bedding?
5) ... ripple marks?
6) ... distinctive colouring?
All your questions are easily answered.
Then why have you failed to do so?
First of all, the entire
geologic column doesn't reflect the entire Noach flood.
Why not? Where is the "pre flood" and "post flood" parts of the column?
According to creationism several things happened.
1. Initial bursting of the fountains of the deep.
There's no evidence of any such "fountains of the deep".
Of course not Dana. And of course there are no springs of the deep
either.
http://www.divediscover.whoi.edu/ventcd/vent_discovery/thediscovery/timeline_p.html
Silly plonker.
These are fountains
deep under the oceans. This sent up sediments that would have
covered the bottom of the ocean first, which is why we don't find much
evidence of land organisms buried in the Cambrian layer.
There isn't *any* evidence of land organisms in the Cambrian. Also, your
claim above doesn't explain why there wouldn't be any land organisms in the
Cambrian.
Of course not Dana. It's the bottom of the ocean or seas.
2. As the waters rose the lower land areas began to liquefy.
what "lower land areas"? And how does the water liquify solid rock?
That would be plains, valleys, coastal areas. Liquefaction occurs
when the land is unstable.
Does it?
And lots of water destabilizes the land
and helps induce this process. We have evidence in recent history of
storms occurring, the liquefaction of land and disasters that result.
Cite?
3. As the waters rose to higher levels we saw landslides.
Why would you expect landslides?
Because of natural observations.
Cite?
>Animals
that couldn't reach higher levels were buried by sediments.
So, grass runs faster than velociraptors.....
So velociraptors are real,
Yes.
just like archeraptors?
4. The waters would draw in and out of areas.
by what mechanism?
Tidal mechanism.
Very limited.
Sediments were
deposited when the waters drew back in and covered footprints.
So, why aren't footprints found in the lowest strata?
They didn't have scuba equipment.
Hahahahahaha!!!
5. After the period of raining, sediments began to settle. Much of
what floated, human bodies, trees, and sofourth, began to settle
later.
Human bodies are not found mixed with animals from previous eras. Why
aren't all trees and vegitation found in higher levels?
Human body isn't held together with tough lizard skin. Destroyed in
violent storms.
You really are daft.
6. After the flood much of the continents were underwater. Mountain
building began to occur which is why we find seashells on mountain
tops.
How did those seashells get into the rocks, instead of on top of them?
Much of this mountain building phenomena consists of volcanic
ash, which then began to kill off animal life, settle in the great
inland seas and trap biological organisms.
Very little of mountain buiding produces volcanic ash. Most fossils are not
found in volcanic tuffs in any case. A large number of fossils are found
in silt stones, shales, limestones and other water borne sediment, not in
volcanic ash.
I have a ton of fossils that were given to me. ALL of it resembles
the rock at the Petrified wood farm that I had visited. And the rock
there is known to be ash from the volcanic action that took place and
knocked down the trees, most all of which face the same direction.
So you don't have an answer.
7. As the mountains arose many of these newly created inland lakes
were pushed up with the mountains and began emptying out as natural
dams burst. This created deposits down stream as they emptied into the
seas.
That doesn't explain much of anything, and there isn't any evidence for
this.
Yes there is.
Doesn't make sense to you, and you don't want it to make sense to you,
as it would destroy your pet theories. You need to take a geology
course and familiarize yourself with these natural processes. Don't
leave yourself out in the cold.
McClueless, recommending someone take a geology course - bugger that's
another super-strength irony meter blown.
--
JM
Bob.
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