Re: Kicked off of Uncommon Descent
- From: Ray Martinez <pyramidial@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 17:43:23 -0700 (PDT)
On Jul 17, 8:55 am, Richard Clayton <rich.e.clay...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Jul 16, 6:18 pm, Ray Martinez <pyramid...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Jul 16, 12:14 pm, Psycho Dave <Priscus.Fo...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I was just on Uncommon design, the weblog of Demski and other ID
people, ( Site:http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/what-do-design-dete...),
arguing about the Darwin-Nazi connection.
Then, suddenly, all of my posts disappeared! No explanation was given.
I never used any profanity, or any other kind of questionable
language. I simply backed up my claims with Wikipedia links, and made
sure that I addressed every issue raised. Oh, well...
I guess it's too much to expect from Creationists to actually allow a
dissenting view.
This is exactly what happened to me at both Pandas Thumb and Uncommon
Descent.
What were the exact circumstances and reasons given for your bans,
Ray?
That's the point----none were given----like Psycho Dave said. Suddenly
my posts disappeared and I was unable to post or my posts did not
show. When a banning that is illegitimate is going to occur it is not
announced or addressed. The victim is shut out with no recourse and,
of course, no one misses him.
It doesn't matter what anyone says: Psycho Dave was banned because he
could not be refuted. The same with me. As long as we engaged in no
profanity or spamming or invective we were banned because we were
pissing people off who could not refute. If our posts were nonsense
then a smart person would leave them be and not answer and allow the
nonsense and silence to speak for them self.
I suspect your ban from UD happened pretty much the same way as your
ban from Conservapedia: You displayed kookery so outrageous that even
other creationists considered you a liability.
I see no insult in being banned by Fundamentalists, that is, persons
who accept a young Earth and microevolution at Indy 500 tempo. That
is, persons who accept microevolution like all Atheist evolutionists.
By the way: I was asked to come back at Conservapedia by
Administration. I have refused. I was initially asked to write the
Charles Darwin bio article by Andy and Admin Conservative. When Andy
changed his mind at the urging of a closet Atheist Admin is his ranks
I wrote a stinging piece of criticism and then was banned. I am not a
conservative. I am a middle to left leaning independent who rejects
the death penalty, supports abortion (except final trimester) and I
was glad to see a corrupt Republican Party lose control of Congress in
2006. I support Barack Obama for President.
As to the Panda's Thumb, I've never seen them ban anybody merely for
disagreeing; they have their own little squad of regular trolls. Did
your ban perhaps reference one of your little explosions of
scatological invective? Or several of them?- Hide quoted text -
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No one can produce one scrap of evidence justifying my ban at Pandas
Thumb----none. I believe that I was banned by the caprice of one power
mad person of whom I forgot their name. My banning at UD is because I
infuriated Dave Scot and dared to point out his militant anti-
Protestantism Atheism. William Dembski could care less about any given
individual on the Internet----even a supporter----shame on him. I
would never again participate in his (or any) forum that is structured
on a superior-inferior format. The best format is here at T.O. where
everyone knows and finds their place. The few real nuts who post here
are few and far between because no one answers. This is the way it
should be----no censorship: the price of freedom is association with
kooks, meaning those who abuse their freedom. Censorship is when
legitimate persons get banned by persons in charge who abuse their
power by ajudicating a personal grudge, derived from the discussions,
under the appearance of official duty.
Ray
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