Re: Lack of evolution in computers and living things

On Jun 17, 10:58 am, Gene Poole <gene.po...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Seanpit wrote:
On Jun 16, 4:37 pm, Ron O <rokim...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
[SNIP]
You on the other hand are just about nothing but bluster.  Demonstrate
that I am wrong.  Where is that science of intelligent design that you
claimed to have to teach to school kids?  Why keep running instead of
putting up the ID science?  Where is your alternative to common
descent and the evidence to back it up that is just as good as the
evidence that you claim isn't good enough that science has for common
descent?  If you don't have these things, why keep blowing worthless
smoke when it doesn't impact the fact that you have nothing worthwhile
to put up on your side of the arguement?  Sounds like nothing but
bluster to me.

I understand you better than you seem to understand yourself.  You are
a pretender and a liar.  You could demonstrate that I am wrong, but
all you ever do is run and pretend and then come up with bull pucky
like you wrote above.  You don't even try to deny that you are running
and pretending, you just run and pretend.  Want to deny that you ever
made those claims?  If you do that, what does that make you?  An
obvious liar, right?  That seems to be too much for what moral
integrity that you have left, so what do you do instead?  Why not try
to do the right thing instead of running and pretending so that you
can claim that you aren't really lying to yourself?

Why should anyone take you seriously when you run instead of admit
error or at least try to support your claims?  Why should anyone dance
to your fantasies when you don't have the integrity to stand by your
claims or admit that you were wrong?

I've presented a very simple question Ron.  Why does evolution work
quite easily and quickly when only a few hundred residues are required
at minimum, but not at all when only 1000aa is required?  What makes
this sudden drop off of evolutionary potential.

You haven't shown this to be the case.  Where are the data?  How were
they plotted to determine that there is a drop off.  Is the drop off
linear; asymptotic; exponential? How many data were analyzed?  How were
they verified?  Have you done anything at all but play silly games with
numbers?

Even with the distribution of systems with relative few residues
(<400) the linear expansion of the average gap distance is obvious.
Consider the following 3D illustration of hyperdimensional sequence
space and the location of smaller and larger protein-based systems
within that space relative to each other:

http://www.pnas.org/content/vol103/issue38/images/large/zpq0370634700004.jpeg

Notice that the larger the sequences the farther appart they are on
average in sequence space. Smaller sequences are more closely
clustered together and have a significantly smaller average distance
between themselves compared to larger sequences. This is a linear
funtion that increases in a linear manner as the size of the minimum
sequence requirement increases.

Now, consider that a linear increase in the gap distance translates
into an exponential in crease in the average number of random
mutations needed (of any kind) to find a novel beneficial sequence.
This problem only gets exponentially worse and worse, statistically,
as one approaches and moves beyond the 1000aa level of functional
complexity.

Sean Pitman
www.DetectingDesign.com

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